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Subject: Learning foreign languages from another language family
Question:
I am a teacher and have had basic classes in teaching ESL students. I took these classes a few years ago.

I recall from a lecture in class - or perhaps from a reading in a text or our required reading materials - that different language families can require varying amounts of time for learning. In other words, from a general and overall population standpoint, the time it for native English speakers to learn another northern European or Celtic language takes the least time for us (native English speakers); Romance languages the next level of time; the mid-eastern languages a third level of time; and the Asian languages the longest amount of time. And, then, it's the reverse for the Asians to learn mid-eastern; Romance; northern European inc. English, etc.

Is my memory of this theory close to reality or current research theory or have I recalled incorrectly?

I know that individual differences can also be very important in learning another language - and many exceptions to the general population time rule can apply and do everyday.

If you could also refer me to the archives for articles related to the time it takes to learn languages from different language families, please provide me with the proper search terminology. Thank you!

Reply:
Well, my colleagues have said almost everything. Let me add one more fact, which is perhaps an important one. You say that individual differences can be very different; truer words were never said. My experience, after more than 50 years of language learning, is that individual differences are much larger than language differences. By at least an order of magnitude.

I find, for instance, that, given the choice, I prefer to speak a highly inflected language like Spanish rather than an analytic one like English; even though my English is native and my Spanish pretty rusty by now, Spanish feels better to me than English, and so does any other language with a lot of inflection. My speech centers seem to be designed with synthesis rather than analysis in mind. And my bugbear in language learning is always vocabulary; grammar is a piece of cake, and pronunciation even easier. That's probably one of the reasons I became a linguist in the first place; so you might take all this advice from linguists with that piece of salt.

What I call "the linguists' disease" manifests itself, among other things, in learning to speak a language faster than learning to understand it, which is the opposite of what most language learners experience. Like Jim Fidelholtz, I can speak reasonably good German but get lost understanding it after a very few sentences. As I put it, I can usually figure out a way to get myself from point A to point B, but the native speaker usually returns by the scenic route, while I get lost.

That's just me (and some other linguists I know), though. There are lots of other people, and kinds of people, in the world, and there are probably about as many individual ways to approach second language learning. Any time somebody tells you something about the way "people" learn second languages, put your hand on your wallet, as Jim McCawley used to say, and ask them which people they're talking about. -John Lawler http://www.umich.edu/~jlawler "Whenever you hear a linguist use the word "theory", you should put your hand on your wallet." - James D. McCawley

Reply From: John M. Lawler    click here to access email
Date: Oct-05-2009
Other Replies:
  1. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family Nancy J. Frishberg    (Oct-04-2009)
  2. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family James L Fidelholtz    (Oct-04-2009)
  3. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family Robert A Papen    (Oct-04-2009)
  4. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family Anthea Fraser Gupta    (Oct-04-2009)
  5. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family Elizabeth J Pyatt    (Oct-04-2009)
  6. Re: Learning foreign languages from another language family Joseph F Foster    (Oct-04-2009)
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