LINGUIST List 10.362

Tue Mar 9 1999

Qs: Apostrophe-s, Software, Phonemes, Attitudes

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  1. David Robertson, Earliest attestation of "greengrocer's apostrophe-s"?
  2. Sean Armstrong, Software for Speech Analysis
  3. Mohamed Farouk Noamany, Arabic Phonemes
  4. Damon Allen Davison, Language attitudes

Message 1: Earliest attestation of "greengrocer's apostrophe-s"?

Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:46:03 -0800 (PST)
From: David Robertson <>
Subject: Earliest attestation of "greengrocer's apostrophe-s"?


Following up on a previous thread here, I'm interested in knowing about 
the earliest examples of the "greengrocer's apostrophe-s". (That is the
nonstandard / incorrect use of the English-language singular possessive
suffix, usually to mark noun plurality or 3rd-person singular present

In a photograph from about 1912, in the book "Oregon the Way it Was", by
Edwin D. Culp (Caldwell, ID: Caxton, 1989), on page 158, there is an
advertisement painted on the front of the Elliott Ford [automobile] Agency 
offering "Oil's Gasoline and Greases".

Anyone seen an earlier example? I will post a summary if warranted.

Dave Robertson

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Message 2: Software for Speech Analysis

Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:09:03 -0800
From: Sean Armstrong <>
Subject: Software for Speech Analysis

I am a graduate student in the USA analyzing syncope or the lack
thereof among nonnative English speakers. In order to more accurately
analyze the vowels for comparison I would like to find some kind of
speech analysis software. I am using an iMac (MacOS) with an internal
microphone with a minimum sampling rate of 44Mhz (?). For some reason
the iMac does not sample any lower. I would appreciate any
assistance. I also have Virtual PC, which allows programs like Speech
Tools from SIL's web page to work, but the recording is choppy.

Thank you for advice.
Sean & Danelle Armstrong
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Message 3: Arabic Phonemes

Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 19:27:15 +0200 (EET)
From: Mohamed Farouk Noamany <>
Subject: Arabic Phonemes

Dear Friends,

I am searching for a source (better if on the INTERNET) for Arabic
phonemes and allophones. Names of http, papers or books are greatlly
appreciated. I would like also to contact interested people in
phonological part of text to speak for the Arabic. BTW, the Arabic
generator gave some results .

I appreciate if you mention where to find a list of Fixed words

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
 Mohamed FArouk Noamany 
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Message 4: Language attitudes

Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:14:15 +0100
From: Damon Allen Davison <>
Subject: Language attitudes

Hello All!

I am doing research into the attitudes of non-native English
speakers/learners to the various major varieties of English,
particularly on the European continent. I have found a number of
sources for these attitudes in Asian speakers, but almost nothing for

If you have any suggestions regarding sources, or have perhaps
yourself published on the subject, please drop me a line. I would
also like to hear from those who may have a particular insight into
this matter, for instance into how English teachers' attitudes affect
those of their students.

Thanks in advance. As usual, every response will receive a personal
reply. I will post a summary if the number of responses warrants it.

Kind Regards,


Damon Allen Davison
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