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Dan Everett wrote: > >the Chomskyan account does not extend to the cases I raised. > Agree. And also add what possibly accounts for the unacceptability of "traceless" bad contractions is irrelevant to the Chomskyan account: Chomsky's theory is interested in the viability of traces, which are both theoretically and empirically important for Chomskyan theories such as those of movement, interface levels etc. A contracted form like 'I amn't against pragmatics' is also bad (at least to me) although there are no traces around, but it does not inform the Chomskyan linguist of their object of inquiry and, as a result, irrelevant to the trace theory. > >Two questions arise in this connection. First, is there a >general account of to-contraction not based on traces, > I don't insist that a good theory of to-contraction must necessarily involve traces. But I really doubt we can afford a comprehensive account of any linguistic phenomenon (to- contraction included) so that we need no auxiliary theory. At least three different types of sources overlap with regard to contraction: syntactic, semantico-pragmatic, and phonological properties of the language. I doubt one single theory can take account of to-contraction once and forever. Even if we can afford some emergent mpdel of contraction (sth similar to an OT accounts of language), it must inevitably rely on some sub-theories of the differen> >since the trace-based account >does not extend to what look to be quite similar cases? > Once more we're where we started: these cases are NOT similar to those covered by Chomsky: he was concerned with those unacceptable contracted forms WITH traces v. acceptable ones WITHOUT them. Dan, on the other hand, points to those unacceptable cases WITHOUT traces v. acceptable ones WITHOUT some. intervening traces? ------------- YES | No ------------- contraction YES A | B possible? ------------- NO C | D ------------- In other words, Chomskyan accounts are concerned with (B v. C) with the empirical claim that box A is empty (in English). What we've got in box D (while a legitimate scientific question) is just irrelevant to this theory. Dan, on the other hand, is focusing on (D v. C/A), which (even if not mistaken in orientation as I fail to see which theoretical basis the contrast between C/A and D is supposed to support/confute) is just irrelevant to what Chomsky has done. > >The next question is how this NEW account might itself extend >to the trace-blocking effects Chomsky mentions > All right! Dan has got a 'theoretical spanner' adjustable to any to-contaction 'bolt'. Let's see how it works! > >Modal verbs involving intention of the matrix subject may contract >(form a single unit with) their infinitival. Otherwise contraction >is not allowed. > First, what does this 'may' mean here? If it is intended to reserve the possibility of modal verbs of intention NOT contracting their infinitival (a scape-hatch to save the theory's skin), then it is not as general as Everett requires a theory of contraction to be. Now we need a second theory to explain under which circumstances the verb MAY NOT contract its infinitival. Second, one can think of sentences like those in (to satisfy Dan's constraint: (1) a. I like to go. (c.f. 'I want to go') b. I prefer to go. c. I wish to hear what happened. d. I'm dying to hear what happened. (a stronger form of c) Dan's theory predicts (2) to be allowed: (2) a. I lika go. (c.f 'I wanna go') b. I prefera go. c. I wisha hear what happened. d. I donna hear what happened. (in analogy with 'gonna') One possibility is that these are some potential contracted forms (esp. 2.d which is phonetically similar enough to the existing contracted forms) that have not come in use but may if there is a need to. Once used frequently enough, their oddness will be gone. A similar story is conceivable for a trace-based theory of contraction! - Ahmad R. Lotfi Department of the English Language, Chair Azad University at Khorasgan Esfahan, IRAN. Mail: lotfiMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issuewww.dci.co.ir http://www.geocities.com/arlotfi/lotfipage.html ********************************************************************
The fact that some people, including Carl Mills and Dan Everett, produce the following examples: 1) I intenna go 2) I planna go 3) I getta go 4) Who do you wanna go? in addition to the relatively common 5) I wanna go can be easily explained if we adopt a Bailey Wave Model (Bailey 1987) in addition to a frequency-based explanation. In a Bailey Wave Model, "connatural" changes spread through physical space (dialects), stylistic space (register) and social space at the same time. If we combine this with Joan Bybee's frequency explanation, then they also spread through lexical space, starting with the most frequent lexical items. This means that the changes eventually will cover the entire lexicon of the entire stylistic range of every speaker of the language, if not blocked for some reason. It is no surprise that some people are farther along than others, and certainly believable that children born recently would have generalized even more. I look forward to hearing more from these children and their peers as they grow older. Bailey, Charles-James N. 1987. Variation Theory and So-called 'Sociolinguistic Grammars.' Language & Communication 7: 269-291. - -Angus B. Grieve-Smith Linguistics Department University of New Mexico grvsmthMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueunm.edu
It would be interesting to know if the corpus data referred to in Dan Everett's posting include any examples that would be analysed with a syntactic trace, e.g: (1) Who can I get _t_ to post the letter for me? (2) He's the chap who I got _t_ to post the letter for me. My intuitions are that contraction would sound terrible in such cases (as of course Chomsky's account predicts). I wonder if the CMU SPHINX data base tells us anything different. On the other hand, perhaps with _wanna_ one might well find cases of contraction across a trace, as in: (3) Who do you want _t_ to win, kids? I once heard a children's entertainer on a cross-channel ferryboat utter (3) with a very clear 'wanna'. But I didn't have my tape recorder with me... Maybe CMU SPHINX has had more luck. Best Richard Ingham > > The original data was noticed by going through many spectrograms (not > systematically for this particular problem, I admit) in the CMU SPHINX > data base and noticing that 'get +to' almost always comes out with far > less reduction of the 'to' than 'got + to', etc. There is a robust > fact here. And I have tested the judgment with many natives speakers, > mostly from the Midwestern US. Again, though, not systematically. That > certainly needs to be done, following something like the methodology > suggested in Wayne Cowart's book, Experimental Syntax. > > So, if Dick Hudson is right, that 'we're still in the stage where > "wanna" is an alternative to "want to"' then we are also still in the > stage where a syntactic account seems less than promising. > > Dan EverettMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue