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Luz Vasquez (LV), in his review of Davies & Pearse 'Success in English Teaching', uses words such as 'should' and 'how best to' in summarizing the advice offered by the authors. As a matter of interest, what empirical evidence do these authors provide which demonstrate that what they propose have proven to be the most effective strategies in some rigorously-observed trialling? I pose the question because of the frequent dissonance between what is proposed in such books as this one (see others by authors such as Rivers, Stevick, Celce-Murcia, Littlewood, etc.) and the putative contemporary wisdom as manifested in the writing of applied linguists. A current example is to be found in the focus on form literature which tends to throw a negative light on separate grammar lessons treating discrete points of language (see work by Lightbown, Doughty, and Long, for example). As an example, take Doughty and Varela (1998) who advise that grammar only be treated when it causes a breakdown in communication and this, only by means of feedback in the form of recasts or other means of correction. They write: "Therefore, in our view, a quintessential element of the theoretical construct of focus on form is its dual requirement that the focus must occur in conjunction with - but must not interrupt - communicative interaction.". Lightbown (1998:193), whilst agreeing with this approach, permits very brief (no more than a minute) grammatical explanations. Separate grammar lessons treating discrete points of grammar are generally considered to be incompatible with the underlying theory of SLA and are therefore proscribed (but see Lightbown, 1998:194, for occasional unspecified exceptions to this). It is noteworthy that those who advocate this proscription of separate treatment of grammar, provide no reliable evidence derived from comparative studies in support of their advocacy nor do they offer any findings derived from long-tern trialling of the strategies they propose. In failing to do so, they repeat the sad history of applied linguistics which has seen its many practitioners who are quick to advocate new teaching strategies based on the flimsiest of "evidence" and even quicker to jump on the latest bandwagon but who then disappear into the woodwork when that latest innovation has failed to deliver the promised goods. Accountability for past failures has not been a noteworthy feature of the writing of applied linguists. (ex. Krashen's proposed teaching strategies, which he knew would only produce speakers of "pidgins" bereft of many of the morphological niceties of language. See FLTEACH debate with Krashen and members of that group.) As to this question of the treatment of discrete points of language, the book under review and the others mentioned above all propose some form of grammar instruction not directly linked to some specific communicative activity, thus going against the principles as proposed by Doughty and the like. Thus, LV points out that the two authors propose that "Every item presented in class should be part of a cycle that includes presentation, practice, and production..." One finds similar advice offered in other 'how to" books. Furthermore, if one does any work with practising teachers, one becomes quickly aware that rare are the ones who do not make systematic use of some variant of that proposed by Davies and Pearse. To return then to my original question addressed to the reviewer, what empirical comparative evidence do the authors offer to support their claims that what they advocate are the most effective options. More specifically, for example, do they show any awareness of the work of VanPatten on input processing. This question should not be interpreted as manifesting disagreement with what Davies and Pearse propose. As with other "how to" books, the advice is almost certainly based on many years of what is perceived of as successful implementation of the strategies proposed by teachers who have been the implementers themselves. Given our substantial ignorance of the nature of classroom language learning in spite of claims to the contrary (see Long 1991 for such a claim), I would prefer to follow the advice of language-teaching practitioners of long experience than to accept the proposasl of the focus on form advocates who appear to believe that it is legitimate to base advocacies on some unproven theory of classroom language learning whilst blithely ignoring the necessity of providing reports of successful long-term trialling in support. Nevertheless, reports of successful long-term implementation of the strategies proposed by authors such as Davies and Pearse would certainly not go amiss. References: Doughty, C. & Williams, J. (Eds.) (1998). Focus on Form in Classroom Second Language Acquisition, Cambridge: CUP. Doughty, C & Varela, E. (1998). "Communicative Focus on Form" in C. Doughty & J. Wlliams (Eds.) Focus on Form in Classroom Language Acquisition, (pp. 114-138) Cambridge: CUP. Lightbown, M. P. (1998). "The importance of timing in focus on form." In C. Doughty & J. Williams (Eds.) Focus on Form in Classroom Second Language Acquisition, (pp, 177-196) Cambridge: CUP. Long, M. H. (1991) "Focus on form: A design feature in language teaching methodology" In K. de Bot, R. Ginsberg, & C. Kramsch (Eds.) Foreign language research in cross-cultural perspective (pp. 39-52). Amsterdam: John BenjaminsMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue