LINGUIST List 12.2930

Mon Nov 26 2001

Qs: Passy Quotation, Ngaturkana

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  1. Beate Waffenschmidt, Passy quotation
  2. Dr. Ben Knighton, Ngaturkana

Message 1: Passy quotation

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:31:03 +0100
From: Beate Waffenschmidt <>
Subject: Passy quotation

Dear all,

Years ago, in a phonetics lecture, I remember the teacher used a
quotation which I think was by Paul Passy. The gist of this quotation
was that a language teacher who doesn't explain to his student how to
produce sounds is like a piano teacher who plays behind a curtain so
the student can't see the keyboard.

Stupidly, I didn't write the reference down - so I would be very
grateful if someone could give me a hint where to find it. Thanks in

Beate Waffenschmidt

Beate Waffenschmidt
T´┐Żbingen University - Applied Engl. Linguistics
Wilhelmstrasse 50
D-72074 T´┐Żbingen
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Message 2: Ngaturkana

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:36:47 -0000
From: Dr. Ben Knighton <>
Subject: Ngaturkana

Dear Sirs,

The universal attribution is that Turkana referred to their elite
founding fathers living in caves when they broke away from their
Karamojong (Jie) elders. Cave in Ngakaramojong is aturu(kan,
cp. Akiturakin, to funnel. It is not related to northern Afroasiatic,
unless you can show impact on Eastern Sahelian.

My question concerns reading of a comparative linguistic study that found 
that Turkana was a language that had been through least transitions. Can 
anyone repoint me to the study or interpret it further, please?

Dr. Ben Knighton
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