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Dear all, On March 22nd, I posted the following query: "I'd like to find out about the global distribution of language complexity. Particularly, I wonder if widespread languages are less complex than local languages. (Clearly, this question requires definitions of both 'widespread' and 'complex'.) Does anyone have any information or ideas regarding this?" Many thanks to everyone who contributed their ideas. Here is a much-delayed summary of the responses I received: Richard Sproat pointed out that we would probably need to define "language" as well as "complex" and "widespread", since dialects may vary in complexity. "Widespread" could easily be defined by number of speakers and number of countries involved (Mike Maxwell). However, "centralized societies" vs. "decentralized societies" may be the more important distinction, since centralized societies have more pressure leaning toward language uniformity (Dave Odden). Most people took "widespread" to mean very widespread -- English, Spanish, Russian, French, Arabic, Chinese. Anthea Fraser Gupta also suggested the idea of "Languages of Wider Communication", which cover discontiguous areas. Several pointed out that the most widespread languages are of European origin, which is a confounding factor (Odden). I think it may make the most sense to consider a continuum of language spread -- from very localized to globalized -- and to see if it correlates with the continuum of language complexity. However, a definition of "complex" is sticky (Maxwell). We need to be careful of falling into generalizations (ex: "Westerncentric ideas of the great learnability of big languages and also Noble Savage ideas of the greater expressive potential of indigenous languages") (Greg Stoltz). Linguists tend to assume that all languages are equally complex � that simplicity in one area indicates complexity in another, and vice versa (Gupta). Sheri Wells Jensen's dissertation supports this idea, for she found that among languages with different loci of complexity, speakers do not make statistically significantly different numbers of errors. She found some overall pattern of errors, but also found some clumping of errors in areas where that language was structurally more complex. (She only looked at widespread languages.) We could ask, are widespread languages complex in different areas than local languages? In this vein, Dave Odden suggests a non-quantitatively based observation: We see less morphological and phonological complexity in languages with a wider geographical distribution. Dieter Wunderlich proposes that "for a local language where the common background of speakers is high it is preferred to have fast access to morphological structures which are possibly lexicalized. By contrast, for a nonlocal language where the common background of speakers is low it is preferred to have access to syntactic structures (focus, topic, explicit arguments)". This is similar to the idea of synthetic vs. analytic approaches to conveying information (morphological vs. syntactic complexity, I believe), which might vary between isolated languages and languages in contact with other languages (from Charles-James Bailey, via Tomasz Wisniewski; see also Trudgill 1992). A morphological view of complexity might be many meanings or aspects per word (Wisniewski). Size of lexicon is a popular-culture view of complexity, but not a good one (Gupta). Even so, it may be related to how many different things the language is used to talk about rather than number of speakers (Duncan MacGregor) although I predict that languages with more speakers will be used in more contexts. The complexity of the connection between language and writing system is also a biased viewpoint (Gupta). But, written systems may slow/stop long-term language change processes such as a hypothetical cycle from agglutinative to inflecting to analytical and back again (MacGregor). Widespread languages may undergo degrees of creolization through contact with other languages, simplifying them, but once nativized, that effect would wear off (Gupta). I conclude with another question, following up on information suggested by my respondents. Are all languages equally complex? When did this idea arise? Who first suggested it? How widespread is it within the linguistics community? Are there quantitative tests of it other than Sheri Wells-Jensen's? Nearly every mention of it that I have found has not been cited. Again, I would like to thank everyone who responded for the help they've given me. Here are some suggested references: Bailey, Charles-James N. 1982. On the yin and yang nature of language, Ann Arbor, Karoma Publishers. (Tomasz Wisniewski) Kusters, Wouter. Forthcoming dissertation addresses "four cases of language expansion: Arabic, Swahili, Quechua, and Scandinavian, and the effects of becoming a lingua franca on the verbal inflectional morphology. - - 2000. Morphological simplification: more than erosion? Languages in contact. Ed. by Dicky Gilbers, John Nerbonn, and Jos Schaeken. Amsterdam & Atlanta, GA: Rodopi. 225-230. - - and Pieter Muysken. 2001. The complexities of arguing about complexity. In: Linguistic Typology. Ed. by Frans Plank. 182-185. - - unpubl. The fate of complex languages: Old Norse and Classical Arabic in the age of globalisation. Nichols, Johanna. 1992. Linguistic Diversity in Space and Time. Chicago & London: University of Chicago Press. (John Atkinson & Jennifer Nycz) Trudgill, Peter. 1989. Contact and Isolation in Linguistic Change. In Language Change: Contributions to the Study of Its Causes. Edited by Leiv Breivik and Erst H'kon Jahr. Berlin: de Gruyter. (Bruce Spencer) Trudgill, Peter. 1992. Dialect Typology and Social Structure. Language Contact: Theoretical and empirical studies ed. by E.H. Jahr. Berlin, New York: Mouton de Gruyter. 195-211. (Robert Orr) Wells-Jensen, Sheri. 1999. Cognitive correlates of linguistic complexity: a cross-linguistic perspective. Dissertation. Buffalo: University of New York. http://personal.bgsu.edu/~swellsj/diss/index.html Eileen ThorsosMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue