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Georgette Jabbour again implicitly refuses to provide any examples that she reports Hinkel offers as support for her claims. This is not surprising, as the provision of such examples would oblige her to explain how their integration into teaching texts would result in improvement. Instead, she refers members to various texts in corpus linguistics and discourse analysis, despite the fact that none of them provides any empirical evidence to demonstrate that the application of their findings to the classroom has resulted in any identifiable improvement in what learners achieve. I have no objection to applied linguists doing research in some theoretical paradigm or other. What I object to is their justifying their work with claims of improvement in learning outcomes resulting from the application of their findings to the classroom. Many volumes have been published based on such claims. To my knowledge, not one provided empirical evidence to support their claims based on the trialling of the use of their findings in the classroom. In a way, the situation is reminscent of that created by snake oil salesmen of the Old West. When the poor buyers had realised that the snake oil did not work, the salemen were no longer to be seen just as applied linguists seldom if ever manifest any accountability for the fact that their claims were basically without empirical foundation and have proven to have brought no improvement to classroom learning. Ron Sheen U of Quebec in Trois Rivieres, Canada.Mail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue