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  1. linguist, Making your research easier: Our Mailing List archives
  2. linguist, Behind the scenes: Student lists manager Michael

Message 1: Making your research easier: Our Mailing List archives

Date: 2 Apr 2002 04:19:32 -0000
From: linguist <>
Subject: Making your research easier: Our Mailing List archives

Dear Subscribers,

As readers of at least one linguistic mailing list (this one!), you'll
know how useful mailing lists are. They provide a vital means by
which you can discuss ideas or questions, find out about upcoming
events, or just keep up to date with the latest developments in your
particular field. However, mailing lists are sometimes hard to find,
and once you do find them, it can be hard to find the information you

For a start, how many linguistic mailing lists are there? There are
certainly at least two hundred, but there could be many more. If
there is a particular one you are interested in, do you know how to
find it? How to subscribe to it? How to access its archives? That
is if it has archives at all: in many cases the lists are on servers
which don't allow archiving. All material, therefore, is essentially
gone once it is posted, unless some member of the list chooses to keep
copies of the postings as a public service. In some cases the lists
die, and the material disappears along with them.

Now there is one, simple way of using mailing lists. A couple of
years ago, LINGUIST began a project of archiving linguistic lists,
collecting all information that passes through them in a permanent
site. Now, you can join, read, or search through the archives of a
list, all from a single page:

To make things even better, and even easier for you to use, we have
also developed a multi-list search engine. With this tool you can
search the archives of every list at the same time. If there is some
reference that you just cannot find, this may be the place to look.
The multi-list search engine is at

We are commited to archiving as many lists as we can. This year, we
added another 35 lists and now archive no less than 91 on our site.
If you are a listowner and you would like us to archive your list,
please contact us. You do not need to modify your software or change
anything about the way you send out postings. If you have a list that
needs a new home, we can even host it for you. For more information,
please visit

We provide all of these services for free, but it is impossible to
maintain them without the funding which your donations provide.
Having taken a short break for the holidays, we are recommencing the
fund drive, having collected $20,162 of the $48,000 we require for the
coming year. For only US$3 per subscriber, we can support our tweleve
student editors and continue providing our comprehensive services.
One person you will be supporting is Michael Appleby, student editor
and mailing lists manager. Do read what working for LINGUIST means to
him, in the second part of this issue.

Our genuine thanks and appreciation go out to all of you listed below
who have helped us so far. We need your donation to be able to
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The LINGUIST Editorial Support Fund
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Message 2: Behind the scenes: Student lists manager Michael

Date: 2 Apr 2002 04:20:15 -0000
From: linguist <>
Subject: Behind the scenes: Student lists manager Michael

Dear subscribers,

We thought you'd like to hear from some of the students your funds are
supporting. So this year each fund drive issue will include a brief
paragraph from one of our editors telling you, their sponsors, about
their work with LINGUIST.

And now, few words from Michael Appleby...

Almost like a rite of passage, it's quite exciting the first time you
send out a LINGUIST List issue as a new member of the crew. You are
assigned a topic to be editor of, and under careful guidance, you go
through the procedure of posting your very first message. You are
told how many people will receive your message, that it is donations
from the recipients who pay for you, that mistakes cannot be corrected
and that everything is archived on the web forever. Then you make
that final press of the 'enter' key: you have posted your first issue
and can call yourself an Editor. And then you have a bit of a lie
down to get over it all. Of course, posting becomes much more a
matter of routine after that, but you still get quite attached to the
topic you post; when it gets assigned to a new editor, you don't just
abandon it but pass it carefully on.

I don't really have posting responsibilities any more; one of the jobs
I do instead is manage the mailing lists. So if you want a new list
added, or a list configuration updated, come to me. Similarly, if you
want a list archive corrupted or a vital system file deleted, also
come to me, because I can do that too. Having the basic system
privileges to be able to do such things, and being trusted not to do
them, is definitely a perk to being Listserv Manager, as is the
snazzy-sounding title itself. I also understand the mechanisms behind
LINGUIST much better for it.

I am also one of the student editors developing our new web site with
Cold Fusion. There are a few online forums for Cold Fusion, where
users interact and answer each other's questions and so on. These
forums are ostensibly for professionals, but I've found myself being
able to answer a few of these questions as I've browsed through them;
this is from having no programming experience of any sort when I first
started at LINGUIST.

The point is that through working for LINGUIST I've learnt a great
many skills in a very short time. Truly, the skills and experiences
I've gained in my time here, I would not have had anywhere else.
What's more is that I really enjoy what I do. One of the reasons I
came here to do a Master's and to work on LINGUIST was to learn what
it is like to research and work in the field of linguistics, and to see
if it is something that I wanted to devote my career to. I've
discovered that it is, and I'm rather looking forward to the future
where work will feel more like a hobby.

Michael Appleby

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