LINGUIST List 14.2682

Sat Oct 4 2003

Qs: English Phrasal Verbs; Online Audio Repository

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  1. Mark Davies, "Basic English" and phrasal verbs
  2. Daniel Ria�o, Audio Repository on the Web

Message 1: "Basic English" and phrasal verbs

 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:44:47 +0000
From: Mark Davies <mark_daviesbyu.edu>
Subject: "Basic English" and phrasal verbs

I'm looking for information on C.K. Ogden's ''Basic English'' (and
similar approaches). I've already looked at several books and
websites like http://ogden.basic-english.org/basiceng.html that
provide arguments for the adoption of such a scheme, and at this point
I'm looking for information from the opposite point of view.

I'm particularly interested in the problem of phrasal verbs. As
Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English) points out,
the problem is the following:

''In order to reduce word count, it uses large numbers of idiomatic
expressions which are non-obvious to non-native English speakers. For
example the term ''make good'' is used for ''succeed'' while the term
''make bad'' is not used for ''fail.'' English relies heavily on
idioms, of which there are about 4000 presently recognized by most
idiom dictionaries - requiring nearly 2000 words, more than twice the
vocabulary of Basic English, to define.''

At any rate, I'd be interested in any pointers that others might be
able to give, particularly on the issue of phrasal verbs. Thanks in
advance.

Mark Davies

Corpus Linguistics
Brigham Young University
http://davies-linguistics.byu.edu 

Subject-Language: English; Code: ENG
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Message 2: Audio Repository on the Web

 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:02:48 +0200
From: Daniel Ria�o <danielrreresmas.net>
Subject: Audio Repository on the Web


Dear List,

What do you do when you are looking for some examples of actual 
sentences spoken in, say, Lakhota or Sherpa? Does anybody know of a 
way to look for audio files in the Web? Or a repository of audio 
files of interest for linguists?
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Daniel Ria�o Rufilanchas
Madrid, Espa�a
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