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Thu Nov 25 2004

Disc: Re: Deep Structure/Initial PP

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Message 1: Re: Deep Structure/Initial PP

Date: 25-Nov-2004
From: Ahmad Reza Lotfi <ahmadreza_lotfihotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Structure/Initial PP


For previous messages in this discussion, see
   Linguist 15.3231 (http://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-3231.html)
   Linguist 15.3262 (http://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-3262.html)
   Linguist 15.3263 (http://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-3263.html)
   Linguist 15.3272 (http://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-3272.html)
   Linguist 15.3277 (http://linguistlist.org/issues/15/15-3277.html)
 
 
 Dear Linguists,
 
 On  21-Nov-2004  Pius ten Hacken < P.Ten-Hackenswansea.ac.uk > wrote:
 
 >
 >Two obvious remarks any Chomskyan linguist would make in this respect are:
 >
 >1. Phrase structure rules and transformations are meant to describe
 >the grammatical competence of a speaker, not the processes of
 >production or interpretation of linguistic performance.
 >
 
 What is less obvious, however, is whether (Dan Slobin's) psycholinguistic
 experimentations with such rules, which established the (true?) belief that
 these rules are at best those of linguistic competence rather than those of
 real-time speakers' performance/mental processes are still valid given the
 superiority of parallel processing models to serial ones for a good number
 of mental activities including visual ones, and most probably also for
 those of mental grammar:
 
 All a reaction-time experiment shows is that the sentence S1 allegedly
 involving more transformations than S2, e.g. passives vs. their active
 counterparts, does not get more time to process. This does not necessarily
 mean that they've got no pyschological reality. There's still a chance that
 (some) T-rules apply in parallel irrespective of the superficial feeding
 relationships  among them, hence not different in computation time but
 perhaps different in the amount of resources employed. I think
 generativists of the time withdrew too hurriedly when they confined their
 rules to mere competence.
 
 Regards,
 
 
 Ahmad R. Lotfi, Ph.D
 Assistant Professor of linguistics,
 Chair of English dept.
 Graduate School
 Azad University at Khorasgan (IRAN)
 
 http://www.geocities.com/arlotfi/lotfipage.html
 http://www.webspawner.com/users/ahmadrlotfi/index.html
 
 
 
 Linguistic Field(s): Linguistic Theories; Syntax
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