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LINGUIST List 16.1291

Fri Apr 22 2005

Qs: WebCorp Concordance Counts; Children's First Words

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        1.    Jerry Kurjian, WebCorp Concordance Counts
        2.    Sue Hagen, Children's First Words

Message 1: WebCorp Concordance Counts
Date: 21-Apr-2005
From: Jerry Kurjian <jkurjianmail.sdsu.edu>
Subject: WebCorp Concordance Counts

Hi all,
I have a question about the concordance counts produced by the WebCorp site:


For example, if I search ''suggest you don't'' vs. ''suggest that you
don't'' using WebCorp (via Google) I get, at the bottom of the page, a
concordance count of 187 vs. 96 kwics respectively. However, if I search
the same two terms, in quotes, on Google, I get 34,200 vs. 16,200 hits.
The ratios are similar though not the same.

Does anyone have insight into how WebCorp calculates/filters its
concordances or why these two engines are so different in the number of
hits they return?

In fact, it is nice to have the more manageable number produced by WebCorp,
and the external collocate counts it creates. But if I am interested in
the frequency of ''I'' collocating with the two search terms based on
WebCorp, I'd like to be clearer how those two counts are derived.


Linguistic Field(s): Computational Linguistics
Text/Corpus Linguistics
Message 2: Children's First Words
Date: 21-Apr-2005
From: Sue Hagen <suezqzeusyahoo.com>
Subject: Children's First Words


I'm a graduate student at California State University, Fresno, studying
first word phonology. Does anyone have available lists of children's first
ten to twenty words (with phonetic representations)? I'm not looking for
any specific languages,and would appreciate any help.


Sue Hagen

California State University, Fresno
General Linguistics

Linguistic Field(s): Language Acquisition

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