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LINGUIST List 17.1733

Wed Jun 07 2006

Qs: Counterfactual 'Liketa'; Calculating Language Ages

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        1.    Mike Putnam, Counterfactual 'Liketa'
        2.    Nick Riches, Calculating Language Ages from Clinical Examination of Language Fundamentals Subtests

Message 1: Counterfactual 'Liketa'
Date: 07-Jun-2006
From: Mike Putnam <mtputnamumich.edu>
Subject: Counterfactual 'Liketa'

For the past two months I've been working on a paper addressing generative
aspects of the counterfactual ''liketa'' construction in Appalachian English:

(1) It was so cold, I liketa froze/*freeze.
'It was cold, I could have/almost froze (to death)'

(2) You were so cold, you liketa froze/*freeze.
'You were so cold, you could have/almost froze (to death)'

The ''liketa'' construction does not inflect for either tense or person,
however, it's difficult to treat this fully like a modal due to the fact it
takes a participial complement. (Perhaps it is possible to consider
''liketa'' a catenative that is a quasi-modal that takes a participle
complement (i.e. ''get trapped'').

My question is simple: Does there exist any other dialects of English that
exhibit a counterfactual construction similar to the ''liketa'' variant
mentioned above? Also, are there any other languages that display a similar
construction? Thanks for your help!

Mike Putnam

Linguistic Field(s): Syntax

Message 2: Calculating Language Ages from Clinical Examination of Language Fundamentals Subtests
Date: 06-Jun-2006
From: Nick Riches <nick.richesgooglemail.com>
Subject: Calculating Language Ages from Clinical Examination of Language Fundamentals Subtests


For a project investigating language difficulties in autism (looking specifically at phonological
working memory) I have used a couple of CELF (Clinical Examination of Language
Fundamentals) tasks as a screening measure. The two tasks are Concepts and Directions
and Sentence Recall, and we selected these them as rough indicators of overall language
abilities. We would like to use the scores from these tasks to select a language-age matched
group, but there is not enough information in Manual to determine the language age with
any degree of accuracy.

Can anyone think of a way to get language ages based on these two subtests?

Nick Riches

Guys Hospital / Kings College London

Linguistic Field(s): Psycholinguistics

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