LINGUIST List 2.221

Monday, 13 May 1991

Disc: Children's Language Games, Green Ideas

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  1. "Hi, 'lo", Re: Children's Language Games
  2. Vicki Fromkin, Re: Children's Language Games
  3. Arnfinn Muruvik Vonen, Re: Colorless Green
  4. Helge Dyvik, Colourless green ideas
  5. William J. Rapaport, Colorless green ideas

Message 1: Re: Children's Language Games

Date: Mon, 13 May 1991 00:50 EST
From: "Hi, 'lo" <SDFNCRritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: Re: Children's Language Games
Regarding children's language games, Moira Yip (Brandeis) did at least one
paper on them, presented at NELS about 10 years ago.
Susan Fischer
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Message 2: Re: Children's Language Games

Date: Mon, 13 May 91 05:47 PDT
From: Vicki Fromkin <IYO1VAF%MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDUCORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Children's Language Games
Re Children's Language Games. There is a mimeographed book witch a compila-
tion of such games from all over which was put out about 25 years ago.
I have it somewhere and when I can get to my books which are in storage
since the linguistic dept at ucla is being remodelled I will send it
on. Also I think you might write to Joel Sherzer at U of Texas, Austin --
his article on the Cuna INdian language game does, if my memory holds,
include a number of references. VAF
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Message 3: Re: Colorless Green

Date: Mon, 13 May 91 09:58:17 +0100
From: Arnfinn Muruvik Vonen <amvonenulrik.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Colorless Green
Bert Peeters writes:
> Who has said what about Chomsky's example in (1) and its French equivalent in
> (2)? I'm trying to compile a list of references to discussions of both. Please
> send your reply to the list or to myself.
> 
> (1) Colourless green ideas sleep furiously
> (2) D'incolores idees vertes dorment furieusement
Ali Aydin (University of Trondheim) has written a squib called "A Far-Fetched
Context" in "SKY 1990" (The 1990 Yearbook of the Linguistic Association of
Finland, Helsinki 1990), constructing just that, a far-fetched context in
which (1) "might" be uttered.
Arnfinn M. Vonen.
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Message 4: Colourless green ideas

Date: Mon, 13 May 91 10:23:10 EMT
From: Helge Dyvik <HFOHD%NOBERGEN.BITNETSEARN.SUNET.SE>
Subject: Colourless green ideas
For Bert Peeters' collection of allusions to "colourless green ideas", here
is a little poem by John Hollander (from THE NIGHT MIRROR, 1971), reprinted
from G. Harman (ed.): On Noam Chomsky: Critical Essays, Anchor Books, New York
1974, p. 1:

 Coiled Alizarine

 for Noam Chomsky

 Curiously deep, the slumber of crimson thoughts:
 While breathless, in stodgy viridian,
 Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.


H. Dyvik
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Message 5: Colorless green ideas

Date: Mon, 13 May 91 10:37:59 EDT
From: William J. Rapaport <rapaportcs.Buffalo.EDU>
Subject: Colorless green ideas
Hymes's poem was published in the G. Harman anthology on Chomsky published
by Doubleday Anchor; I don't have the reference with me. There's also
a poem containing the line, "furiously sleep ideas green colorless",
which I can dig up if anyone's interested.

 William J. Rapaport
 Associate Professor of Computer Science
 Center for Cognitive Science

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