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In reply to Ralf Thiede's query about Acehnese (Ac, also called "Achenese"): (1) Correct, there is no case inflection in Ac; in fact, there is virtually no inflection at all. (2) However, the next suspicion, to the effect that "grammatical functions like subject and object are usually expressed positionally" contains a very strong presupposition (also present, but explicitly so, in Perlmutter's article), namely that there *are* such "grammatical functions" as "subject" and "object" in Ac. This is a matter of considerable dispute, as well as being a canon of Relational Grammar. Durie and I agree (though, I suspect, for different reasons) that the category "Subject", in particular, is effectively irrelevant in Ac; we both tend to refer instead to semantic case roles like "Agent" or "Patient" (Durie prefers "Undergoer" for the latter) instead of "Subject" in order to avoid the ideological impedimenta that obligatorily surrounds it. On the other hand, Abdul Gani Asyik, who is a native speaker, continues to apply the term "subject" to Ac grammar without feeling necessarily constrained by others' theoretical presuppositions. (3) In the light of (2), the question as to whether the cited sentences (which came originally from my 1977 and 1975 papers) are "active" depends considerably on your political orientation. My own answer is that calling a sentence or a construction "passive" is merely a naming convention, and says nothing empirical about the thing named. As to what "le" is a marker of, you pays your money and you takes your choice. References Asyik, Abdul Gani. 1987. _A Contextual Grammar of Acehnese Sentences_. Ph.D. dissertation, University of Michigan. Mark Durie. 1985. _A Grammar of Acehnese on the Basis of a Dialect of North Aceh_. _Verhandelingen van het Koninklijk Instituut voor Taal- Land- en Volkenkunde_ Nr. 112. Dordrecht: Foris. ----- 1988. "The So-Called Passive of Acehnese", _Language_ 64:1. John Lawler. 1977. "A Agrees with B in Achenese: A Problem for Relational Grammar", in Cole & Sadock (eds), _Syntax and Semantics_, Vol 8, _Grammatical Relations_, New York: Academic Press. ----- 1975. "On Coming to Terms in Achenese: The Function of Verbal Dis- Agreement", in Grossman, San, & Vance (eds), _Papers From the Parasession on Functionalism_, Chicago: Chicago Linguistic Society. ----- 1988. "On the Questions of Acehnese 'Passive'", _Language_ 64:1. ----- 1990. Review of Durie (1985), _Lingua_ 82:4. John Lawler Program in Linguistics jlawlerMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueum.cc.umich.edu University of Michigan USERLL3N
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RE: Acehnese query You need Mark Durie's grammar (A grammar of Acehnese ... Foris, 1985). See also his paper in Language 64:1 (1988). Scott DeLanceyMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue
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