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To Hestvik: The wording of your comment suggests that the question of whether language is autonomous, or part of an autonomous module, is the same as the question of whether it's innate. Those seem to me to be dif- ferent issues, at least partly. I suppose it would be hard to claim that there's an autonomous language faculty that isn't innate, although even that doesn't seem like a foregone conclusion; but surely one could believe in an innate general cognitive capacity. It also seems possible to suppose that this capacity, however general, might be very different in humans from what it is in infrahuman species. The debate that's going on in Linguist doesn't seem, in any event, to in- volve who is right on the issue of whether language is autonomous. It seems, rather, to involve a battle over turf: the antagonists appear to be arguing over who has the right to occupy the hallowed plot of ground called cognitive linguistics. That's not a very worthwhile thing to have a fight over, it seems to me, though I sympathize with those who object to reserving the term 'cogni- tive linguistics' for the research program of only one group of combatants. I say this with some trepidation, since I can now see coming a metafight over philosophies regarding what it is and isn't right to have fights about. So in the end, I'm with Hestvik: everybody back to the lab! Michael KacMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue
Arild Hestvik (arildMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueadler.philosophie.uni-stuttgart.de) writes, in response to the Cognitive Linguistics debate on this mailing list. >Another futile arm-chair debate about general intelligence vs. innate >linguistic knowledge is raising its head--let's instead have the real >arguments and *research* decide whether there is an innate language faculty >or not. In the end that's the important thing and not whether cognitive >linguistics is a brand-name reserved for people who a priori have made up >their mind one way or the other. I agree, but there is a problem with this reply. Lakoff claims that research has *already* decided these questions. Indeed, he claims that there is "massive" evidence for his view. So, from his point of view, he is out of the armchair already. Now it is important to realize how this claim gets made. The "evidence", as I understand it, concerns things like preposition choice and metaphor (e.g. why "armchair"), not the things you or I have worked on -- e.g. locality conditions on Norwegian pronouns or the possibility of expletive 'do' participating in inverted counterfactuals. The obvious question is how evidence about the modularity of metaphor can tell us anything about how to explain the antecedents of Norwegian pronouns. The answer comes only by begging the question, it seems to me. If you start with the assumption that everything called "language" is a product of general intelligence, then "massive evidence" concerning one piece of "language" will automatically bear on every other piece of "language", since all aspects of language have the same nature and the same origin. By begging the question, you get the answer to the question that you want. What Lakoff and other "Cognitive Linguists" have to provide is not research on other "also interesting" topics, but "Cognitive Linguistic" research specifically on the same topics that we look at, if they want to reach any legitimate conclusions about the topics we work on. This is why I think that the proposed journal, whatever its title, is a good idea. I look forward to "cognitive" reanalyses of your dissertation, my dissertation, Rizzi's "Relativized Minimality", recent work on verb-negation-clitic order, the distribution of parasitic gaps -- all as functions of general, non-language-specific cognitive proceses. If, as Powers and Lakoff suggest in recent notes, work in Cognitive Linguistics has been suppressed by the linguistics establishment; and if, as Lakoff suggests, there really is massive evidence bearing on his claims; and if this evidence addresses the question rather than begging it, then the journal should be very interesting indeed. David Pesetsky P.S. Notice, by the way, that there is no reciprocity required. I do not need to prove anything about the relation of metaphor to other cognitive systems, because I am not making any claims about it. I'm one of the guys who doesn't assume everything is conected to everything else. It may be turtles all the way down, but it's not necessarily turtles all the way across.