LINGUIST List 2.770

Sun 10 Nov 1991

Qs: Directives, Person, Archetypes, Clicks, etc.

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  1. Dominic Berducci, Re: 2.765 Queries: Text-to-Speech, Grammar Checkers
  2. Ellen Prince, person query
  3. "don l. f. nilsen", Archetypes, Prototypes, Stereotypes, and Master Tropes
  4. , 3 queries
  5. , Clicks
  6. Circle Noetic Svc, A Nizhnikov,PAS, Seek Multi-Lingual text files
  7. "John Nerbonne", Query on order of inflection vs. derivation

Message 1: Re: 2.765 Queries: Text-to-Speech, Grammar Checkers

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 91 17:16:02 -0500
From: Dominic Berducci <berduccilinc.cis.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: 2.765 Queries: Text-to-Speech, Grammar Checkers
Does anyone have any information on 'Directives'? I am familiar with
the work of ERvin-Tripp but am wondering if there is any more recent
material. I am attempting to categorize and operationalize Vygotsky's
concept of 'other-regulation'.
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Message 2: person query

Date: Thu, 07 Nov 91 20:45:29 EST
From: Ellen Prince <ellencentral.cis.upenn.edu>
Subject: person query
first, thanks to those who have already sent me references on person.
second, let me clarify and also narrow down what i meant. i'm looking for
references to work on the grammatical category 'person', as in 1st person, 2nd
person..., not as in 'female person', 'jewish person'... and not as in 'sense
of person'...
more specifically, i'd be interested in work on acquisition of the
category--how children acquire it, processing, and also crosslinguistic
stuff--does every language have it? are there significant differences in
different lgs in what is marked and how it is marked?
thanks again.
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Message 3: Archetypes, Prototypes, Stereotypes, and Master Tropes

Date: Thu, 07 Nov 91 07:54:55 MST
From: "don l. f. nilsen" <ATDFNASUACAD.bitnet>
Subject: Archetypes, Prototypes, Stereotypes, and Master Tropes
Hi:
 Is anyone out there doing research on Archetypes, Prototypes,
Stereotypes, or Master Tropes (Metaphor, Irony, Metonymy, or
Synesthesia)?
 If so, please give me a buzz!
=-) ;-> 8*) {^_^}
Don L. F. Nilsen
<ATDFNASUACAD.BITNET>, (602) 965-7592
Executive Secretary
International Society for Humor Studies
English Department
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-0302
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Message 4: 3 queries

Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1991 12:56:12 PST
From: <fjnmilton.u.washington.edu>
Subject: 3 queries
Could some of you out there please help an admitted nonspecialist to find out
the answers to the following three questions?:
(1) WRITTEN LANGUAGE AND LANGUAGE CHANGE. What is the current thinking about
the effect of having a written language (and, in particular, a high literacy
rate) on the pace of language change. I'd appreciate literature citations (for
this and for the following two queries).
(2) AMERICAN DIALECTS. I've heard it said that, despite conventional wisdom,
American regional dialects are not dying out. Indeed, there is evidence that
they might be reviving and differentiating further. Is this true? Where can I
read about this, if so?
(3) ESPERANTO, ETC. Is there a recent study of the fate of Esperanto and other
'artificial' international language? I assume that the number of speakers is
decreasing, but I would be interested in seeing statistics.
Many thanks for your help,
--fritz newmeyer
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Message 5: Clicks

Date: Thu, 07 Nov 91 10:27:31 CST
From: <GA3662SIUCVMB.bitnet>
Subject: Clicks
Does anyone know of references to clicks (velaric ingressive
sounds) in languages outside of Africa? What about their
presence in language play? Not in isolated position, but
rather integrated within words exactly as in (say) Xhosa
or !Kung.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 Geoff Nathan
 GA3662SIUCVMB
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Message 6: Seek Multi-Lingual text files

Date: 08 Nov 91 21:24 GMT
From: Circle Noetic Svc, A Nizhnikov,PAS <D1634applelink.apple.com>
Subject: Seek Multi-Lingual text files
I am writing with a request for information. We are a software company that
develops multi-lingual products - Circle Noetic Services, founded by Sasha and
Margaret Nizhnikov - programmer and linguist respectively. We are in need of
ascii text files in any languages you have available (Our products are
available in 20 languages). If you could offer us some names of people who have
text available for research and testing purposes, we would be delighted. We
would also be willing to pay for the text if asked. Please feel free to contact
us with any help you can offer. We can be reached at AppleLink D1634 or you can
phone us at 603/672-6151 in New Hampshire.
Thanks,
Gillian Smith
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Message 7: Query on order of inflection vs. derivation

Date: Sat, 09 Nov 91 09:29:42 +0100
From: "John Nerbonne" <nerbonnedfki.uni-sb.de>
Subject: Query on order of inflection vs. derivation
Someone on the list quoted Greenberg's 28th universal recently:
 "If both the derivation and inflection follow the root, or if they both
 precede the root, the derivation is always between the root and the
 inflection."
What do slavicists make of this vis-a-vis the "reflexive" suffix s'/s'a in
Russian? This clearly occurs outside of the inflectional agreement affixes
(mojus', moeshs'a, etc.), but it has most of the properties of derivational
affixes:
 -allows semantic irregularity
 -productivity << 100% (allowing that inflection, too, has "gaps")
 -subject to further derivation (nominalization)
I'm aware that all of these properties can be argued to be present in
affixes which most would regard as inflectional, e.g., the plural,
but arguments attacking the distinction aren't what interest me.
 My question is rather, assuming the plausibility of an inflection/derivation
distinction, can one make sense of the Russian s'/s'a as anything but a
counterexample to Greenberg's 28th?
John Nerbonne
nerbonnedfki.uni-sb.de
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