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I'm currently reading "On the Definition of Word" by Anna-Maria DiSciullo and Edwin Williams (MIT Press, 1987) and I'm running into some problems. Although it was certainly not the authors' intent, the book raises difficult questions (for ME, at least) about X-Bar Theory and the validity of the Verb Phrase (VP). I'm hoping that someone on Linguist List can help. In one part of the book, the authors discuss the formation of compounds - how some arguments (i.e., theta roles) are projected from the head word of a compound to the resulting compound, and how an argument of the head can be satisfied by the non-head. They use X-bar theory to explain their conclusions. The claims they make that are relevant to my confusion are: 1. The non-head word of a compound can satisfy only the INTERNAL argument of the head word - it can NOT fill the EXTERNAL argument. 2. Only the external argument of the head word (but NOT the internal argument) can become an argument of the resulting compound. In other words, the internal argument of the head word can be filled by the non-head word, and the external argument of the head word can become the argument of the resulting compound. They use the following examples to illustrate their points: destruction story *It was boy-slept. John bar tends. *tree-eating of pasta Unfortunately, I did not find their examples very illuminating, so I came up with a few of my own that illustrate what they say CAN be done: land-grabbing tycoons house-hunting newlyweds beer-drinking buddies Note that the external argument of the head word becomes an argument of the whole compound, while the internal argument of the head word is filled by the non-head word, as the authors claim. They justify these conclusions using X-Bar Theory (page 31), stating that: "[A non-head] cannot satisfy the external argument, because that argument must pass its index up the X-bar projection to the maximal projection, and satisfying the external argument within the maximal projection would lead to a contradiction: the maximal projection would bear an index indicating that it contained an unsatisfied argument, but that argument would in fact be satisfied... [The fact that only the external argument of the head can become part of the argument structure of the resulting compound] follows from the fact that the external argument passes up the X-bar projection, but the argument structure as a whole does not..." It all sounds very reasonable. Unfortunately, it is quite easy to come up with examples which contradict both claims: man-made hill customer-selected colors snake-infested swamp Here, the EXTERNAL argument of the head is satisfied by the non-head, and the INTERNAL argument of the head becomes the argument of the new compound. Thus, it would seem that EITHER argument, internal or external, can be supplied by the head word to the resulting compound. It would also seem that EITHER argument of the head word, internal or external, can be filled by the non-head word. This bothers me because it implies that the distinction between internal and external arguments may not be valid. And yet, this distinction is crucial to many current analyses within Government-Binding Theory. (Actually, what really worries me is that the explanation is SO obvious that I'll be embarrassed when I find out what it is. :-) This whole line of thought reminded me of a directly related problem that has remained buried in the recesses of my brain since I studied Transformational Grammar (TG). It bothered me then, but I never pursued it. Specifically, one of the strongest reasons why a verb phrase is considered a constituent is because it can appear in coordinated structures: John (washed the dishes) and (vacuumed the carpet). This example gives credence to the widely (universally?) accepted assumption that S => NP VP. However, counter-examples come easily to mind: (John washed), (Bill waxed) and (Mike buffed) the floor. (John just left for) and (Bill just arrived from) Boston. Which constituents are being coordinated here? More importantly, is coordination still considered a meaningful test by syntacticians, or is it just a language-dependent form of elision at S-structure? I'm not sure why I didn't pursue this earlier. I think I just assumed that the textbooks were correct about S => NP VP, and that it would all sink into my thick skull eventually. Now, though, DiSciullo and Williams have resurrected my earlier doubts about the validity of VP and the internal/external argument distinction. It also raises the question (in MY mind, at least) of why we must forsake X-Bar theory at the sentence level, when it has proven to be so useful everywhere else. Didn't someone (Ray Jackendoff ???) once try to show that the main verb is the head of a sentence, and that ALL arguments of the head (internal, external and adjunct) are sisters? If so, what ever came of it? Anyway, I apologize if this is old hat for anyone who reads this, but it sure would be nice if someone could straighten me out on this matter. Sincerely befuddled, Rick -- *=*= Disclaimer: The INEL does not speak for me and vice versa =*=* = Rick Morneau Idaho National Engineering Laboratory = * mnuMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueinel.gov Idaho Falls, Idaho 83415, USA * =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= NeXT Mail accepted here! *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=