LINGUIST List 4.986

Tue 23 Nov 1993

Qs: Hungarian, IRC, NLP, near

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  2. Ken Miner, IRC
  3. , 3rd Yr Proj in NLP
  4. , Chest -> Near Again

Message 1: Query: Hungarian

Date: 23 Nov 1993 18:27:53 +1300Query: Hungarian
From: <ling003cantva.canterbury.ac.nz>
Subject: Query: Hungarian

Query: Hungarian noun inflection

Among Hungarian nouns with back vowel harmony, there are some which
take a low 'link vowel' (/a/) and some which take a mid link vowel
(/o/). Also, some nouns take /a/ as the 3 sg possessive suffix,
while others take /a/. Are these choices made entirely
independently or not?

In principle there could be four classes of nouns, so far as these
suffixal choices are concerned:
Class 1: link /a/ and possessive /a/
Class 2: link /a/ and possessive /ja/
Class 3: link /o/ and possessive /a/
Class 4: link /o/ and possessive /ja/.
Classes 1, 2 and 4 certainly have members, but I have the impression
that Class 3 may be unstable in that its members can also show up in
Class 4. Can any Hungarian expert shed light on this?

A similar question could be posed about front-vowel nouns in respect
of non-standard dialects which distinguish mid /e/ from low /E/ as
link vowels.

I believe that suffix choice interacts with stem allomorphy in
certain ways. If there are clearcut patterns I'd be glad to hear
about them, too.

Thanks in anticipation. I'll post a summary if there are
interesting replies.
Andrew
Andrew Carstairs-McCarthy
Department of Linguistics, University of Canterbury, Private Bag 4800,
Christchurch, New Zealand
Phone +64-3-364 2211; home phone +64-3-355 5108
Fax +64-3-364
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Message 2: IRC

Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1993 09:28:22 IRC
From: Ken Miner <MINERkuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: IRC

Would anyone working on the pragmatics of IRC (Internet Relay Chat)
communications please get in touch with me? Bibliographic items, if
such exist, also welcome.

Ken Miner
minerkuhub.cc.ukans.edu
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Message 3: 3rd Yr Proj in NLP

Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 13:43:24 GM3rd Yr Proj in NLP
From: <csc2u2apsun.leeds.ac.uk>
Subject: 3rd Yr Proj in NLP


I am a final year Computer Science student undertaking a project in
natural language processing at the University of Leeds. My aim is to
construct frequency models of two- and three-letter combinations in
different languages using corpus material, so that the models could
be used to identify which language a piece of unknown text is in.

I am hoping to extend the project so that the model could be used to
disambiguate between a set of alternative letters in a word, obtained
from an OCR or handwriting recognition unit.

Please mail me if you know of any work in this area (useful texts,
references, or manufacturers of OCR/Handwriting recognition devices)
using linguistic models to improve recognition performance.

If you have any suggestions as to the usefulness of this project,
please be in touch.

Thanks,

Gavin Churcher.
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Message 4: Chest -> Near Again

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 08:59:00 ESChest -> Near Again
From: <Alexis_Manaster_RamerMTS.cc.Wayne.edu>
Subject: Chest -> Near Again

John Limber has brought to my attention an 1885 publication by
Brinton of an even earlier ms. by Humboldt which says:

 In Maya TAN means in, toward, among; but it is also the breast or
front of the body...

I was wondering if any Mayanists out there could confirm or deny, or
emend this.
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