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I recently asked, as I do periodically, if anyone knows of speakers who have different vowels in _rider_ and _writer_ (i.e., who have Canadian Raising, so called, for the diphthong /ai/) but who use the vowel of _rider_ in the second syllable of _typewriter_. I received a fair amount of mostly irate comments from people who thought this was impossible. However, I have found one speaker (who happens to be a linguist but not a phonologist) who has this pronunciation. As it happens he is not from Ontario, but from Illinois, but I believe that his existence strengthens the case for the hitherto purely hypothetical account I have proposed of how Joos came to "invent" the non-existent Ontario dialect in which supposedly _writer_ and _rider_ were homophonous. A careful reading of Joos shows that the only example he actually cites is _typewriter_, not _writer_! I thus believe that there must have been more speakers who said _writer_ with a higher vowel, but both _rider_ and _typewriter_ with a lower one than my sole informant, and that this sporadic pronunciation is what led to the birth of the whole myth about rule ordering in Canadian English, which persists till now as THE example of crucial rule ordering in the phonological literature. It may not be as glamorous as the Eskimo snow word myth, but there it is.Mail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue