LINGUIST List 5.1350

Thu 24 Nov 1994

Qs: Latin, Korean syntax, Spanish, Intonational Analysis

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  1. E. Wayles Browne, Latin question
  2. , Quiry: Korean Syntax
  3. , query on a X le dio por Y in Spanish
  4. GORDON B COOPER, Intonational Analysis

Message 1: Latin question

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 08:41:37 Latin question
From: E. Wayles Browne <ewb2cornell.edu>
Subject: Latin question

For a classical friend not on the list: what do we know about the Latin word
_astragalus_ 'gambling device'? Where is the word from, and how did the
Romans use it to gamble? Can anyone suggest e-mail lists oriented specifically
to Latin or classics? Please reply to:

Wayles Browne, Assoc. Prof. of Linguistics
Dept. of Modern Languages and Linguistics, Morrill Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, New York 14853, U.S.A.
tel. 607-255-0712, 607-273-3009
e-mail ewb2cornell.edu (earlier: jn5jcornella.bitnet //
jn5jcornella.cit.cornell.edu)
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Message 2: Quiry: Korean Syntax

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 09:20:06 Quiry: Korean Syntax
From: <saicunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu>
Subject: Quiry: Korean Syntax

I am posting this message on behalf of our student who is not on the list.
 Please respond to her directly.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Dear linguists, I am
* interested in Korean syntax and in particular in non-finite verb
* forms in Korean (forms roughly corresponding to infinitives and
* gerunds in English). My problem is in which cases or constructions
* these forms should obligatorily have the same subject as the finite
* (last) verb of the sentence and which constructions do not require
* this. I am looking for references on this topic or generally on
* Korean syntax. If you can help me and provide information about
* references I will be very grateful. If you know a general grammar
* book on Korean (not a textbook), please also let me know.
 Elena Rudnitskaja, CUNY Grad Center: eelgccunyvm.cuny.edu
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Message 3: query on a X le dio por Y in Spanish

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 10:45:31 query on a X le dio por Y in Spanish
From: <JORGE2vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: query on a X le dio por Y in Spanish

To colleagues who know Spanish and syntactic theory:

Consider the construction `dar a X por Y' where X is some entity
engaging in some unexpected behavior and Y is such a behavior (e.g. `a
Pepe le dio por treparse en los arboles' (roughly "All of a sudden
Pepe started climbing any trees he could find"--perhaps there is a
better translation):

What is this sentence in deep structure? Is there anything that could
be called the subject?
Would you call [por treparse a los arboles] the subject?

Many thanks. I will post a summary.
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Message 4: Intonational Analysis

Date: Wed, 23 Nov 1994 10:23:51 Intonational Analysis
From: GORDON B COOPER <FFGBCaurora.alaska.edu>
Subject: Intonational Analysis

 For a project on the performance of poetry, I am coming back to
phonetic analysis after not doing it for years (not since grad school, in
fact). I am digitizing sound recordings, tracking pitch, and trying to
compare contours. So far this work is all on English.
 Is there anything like a how-to book or article on the system of tones,
pitch accents, phrase accents, and boundary tones outlined by Janet
Pierrehumbert in 1980 and adopted by Bell Labs people and others? (H*+L, L+H*,
H%, etc.) I find that when I look at published versions (such as
Pierrehumbert's dissertation) they seem transparent,
but when I look at my own data the analysis seems desperately ambiguous.
Accents that look like they should trigger downstep don't, small pitch
movements may or may not be accents, long utterances with no pauses may be any
number of intermediate phrases, syllables between accents could be accounted
for either by the previous accent or by the following one, etc. Can anyone out
there help?
 Or would another system simply be more appropriate?
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