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I had so many responses to my query about (firstly uvular nasals and then) labiodental nasals, that I figure it's easier to post a summary than reply to all individually. I was trying to find a sample word from a language that has a phonemic labiodental nasal, ideally one that occurred say intervocalically and maybe even in contrast with bilabials or dentals. I had assumed that because this sound had a distinct symbol, that there must be a phonemic labiodental nasal out there somewhere. It seems I was wrong. I received numerous examples from; English INFATUATION (English casual speech) `infatuation'. Spanish EMFASIS (Spanish), `emphasis' Xhosa & Zulu imfene `baboon' imvubu `hippopotamus' Italian: anfora 'amphora' Swedish enveten 'stubborn' anfall 'attack' and several other languages, all involving homorganic nasal fricative clusters. Geoff Pullum informed me that "Althought the IPA created a special symbol just in case, it is common knowledge among phoneticians that this was a policy mistake. No language has ever been found that has a phonemic labiodental nasal." I guess you all knew this too huh? thanks for all the responses cheers NickMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue