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Fri 03 Jun 1994

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Message 1: Summary: Renumbering programs

Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:28:57 CDTSummary: Renumbering programs
From: Mari Olsen <molsenastrid.ling.nwu.edu>
Subject: Summary: Renumbering programs

Here is the much-delayed summary on my request
for a 'renumber' program for examples and their references in text.

FROM JWKTELERAMA.LM.COM (JOE KISSELL):
While I am not familiar with the program you mentioned, you may
be interested to know that the new version of Nisus (called Nisus
Writer 4.0), which is in beta now and should be available within a
couple of months, includes this feature. In fact, you can have
separate "counters" for figures, tables, equations, sections, sub-
sections, and so on (including six user-defined variables) that will
independently keep track of their respective items, automatically
update cross-references in the text, and so on. For more information
on this product, contact Nisus Software at 800-922-2993 or
Nisus.MKTGapplelink.apple.com.

FROM NISUS.MKTGAPPLELINK.APPLE.COM (Edwina Riblet)
Thanks for your interest in Nisus Writer, the forthcoming version
of Nisus. The new product will do everything you want except cross
reference to footnotes. That capability is on the list for the first
update to Nisus Writer but unfortunately it won't be ready in the
initial release. It's important and we know it, so it will be
there--just not right away.

FROM CCULYVAXA.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU (CHRIS CULY)
A couple years ago I demonstrated a program called SuperRenumber
for the Mac, which does what you want. I could e-mail it to you, if
that would be helpful.

There is are a couple other, more sophisticated programs around
that also do that, one is called Renumber (or something like that),
and anothe is WordRef. The latter at least might be available for
anonymous ftp somewhere. My program is a little cumbersome, but
it does work (and is free).

Finally, some recent versions of various word processors might
have ways in which you could do something similar. There are ways
to link numbers and their references in Microsoft Word 5.x, for
example. Renumbering is manual, though, I think.

I CHECKED WITH MSWORD, AND THERE IS AT PRESENT NO
WAY TO LINK THE EXAMPLES WITH THEIR REFERENCES IN
THE TEXT. I RECEIVED A COPY OF CHRIS' PROGRAM, BUT MY
DE-BIN-HEXING AND UNSTUFFING MUST HAVE MADE IT
NOT WORK--I'M GOING TO TRY AGAIN, THIS TIME
REMOVING THE MESSAGE HEADER :-(

FROM PICARDVAX2.CONCORDIA.CA (MARC PICARD)
Maybe what you're looking for is one of the following:

Host ftp.cecer.army.mil (129.229.20.254)
Last updated 06:54 27 Mar 1994
 Location: /grass/grass4.0/updates/src/raster/r.cross
 FILE -rw-rw-r-- 533 bytes 00:00 1 Mar 1992 renumber.c

Host ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9)
Last updated 06:39 18 Aug 1993
 Location: /systems/apple2/8bit/basic
 FILE -rw-r--r-- 4190 bytes 00:00 2 Jul 1992
renumber.bsc.Z

Host uceng.uc.edu (129.137.189.1)
Last updated 12:18 4 Mar 1994
 Location: /pub/wuarchive/systems/apple2/umich.edu/8bit/basic
 FILE -r--r--r-- 4823 bytes 23:00 30 Jun 1992
renumber.bsc
 Location: /pub/wuarchive/systems/atari/umich.edu/8bit
 FILE -r--r--r-- 10984 bytes 00:00 30 Oct 1992
renumber.arc
 Location: /pub/wuarchive/systems/amiga/aminet/comm/bbs
 FILE -rw-rw-r-- 29084 bytes 08:36 16 Sep 1993
Renumberusers.lha

Host ftp.luth.se (130.240.18.2)
Last updated 07:39 4 Mar 1994
 Location: /pub/amiga/.2/comm/bbs
 FILE -rw-r--r-- 29084 bytes 15:36 16 Sep 1993
Renumberusers.lha

Host uceng.uc.edu (129.137.189.1)
Last updated 12:18 4 Mar 1994
 Location: /pub/wuarchive/systems/amiga/aminet/comm/bbs
 FILE -rw-rw-r-- 421 bytes 08:36 16 Sep 1993
Renumberusers.readme

Host ftp.luth.se (130.240.18.2)
Last updated 07:39 4 Mar 1994
 Location: /pub/amiga/.2/comm/bbs
 FILE -rw-r--r-- 421 bytes 15:36 16 Sep 1993
Renumberusers.readme

Host grivel.une.edu.au (129.180.4.7)
Last updated 08:31 22 Feb 1994
 Location: /pub/ham-radio/funet/ham/packet/bbs/f6fbb/utils
 FILE -r--r--r-- 18048 bytes 01:00 25 Jun 1992
renumber.zip

FROM MACRAKISOSF.ORG (STAVROS MACRAKIS)
You don't say what word processing software you use.

A _good_ word processor should number examples, illustrations,
etc. automatically, and keep track of references to them. This would
make a "renumber" program superfluous. Perhaps more recent
versions of your WP software will solve the problem.

NOT OF MS WORD, BUT I HEAR LATEX WILL DO IT.

FROM KEMENADELET.VU.NL (ANS VAN KEMENADE)
contact David Denison at Manchester.
d.denisonmanchester.ac.uk. It's a terrific programme.
Ans van Kemenade

FROM MFCEPDDFS1.ART.MAN.AC.UK (DAVID DENISON)
Oh dear. No, I wrote and maintain a program called NUM which
does precisely what you want - and very well too - but only for PCs
and not for Microsoft Word beyond version 4.0, since versions 5.0+
had pretty good built in renumbering. Don't the Mac versions of
Word do it (well) yet?

I've often been asked to do a Mac version of NUM, but ... unfamiliar
system, and I am supposed to do the odd spot of linguistics now and
then. So there's no prospect of me doing one, and I've never found
a collaborator willing to convert my DOS program for the Mac. (But
I'm very much open to suggestions.)

I believe there IS a Mac program, however: RENUMBER, written by
Jonathan Mead, who was at UCLA but isn't any more. (You should
be able to get an email address for him easily enough.) The DOS
version was - I thought! - less capable than NUM, but at least there
was a Mac version, and Vicki Fromkin swears by it. That's the best I
can come up with at the moment.

DAVID IS HAPPY TO SEND A PC-COMPATIBLE COPY, AND CAN
RECEIVE PAYMENT IN DOLLARS VIA A FRIEND

FROM JMEADFirstByte.CCMAIL.CompuServe.COM
 Dear Prof. Olsen,
 I wrote Renumber for Macintosh and have indeed moved since
1990 from: 356 Spaulding Ave, LA to: 1303 Acacia Ave, Torrance,
CA 90501.

 The prices on the flyer you have from the LSA are still valid. If
you have any other questions please do not hesitate to write to me at
the above address or send email to:
 jmeadfirstbyte.ccmail.compuserve.com

$15 STUDENTS OR WORKING PAPERS EXCHANGE. I RECEIVED
A COPY OF THE PROGRAM--VERSION 1.2D--AND STILL NEED
TO PAY FOR IT/TEST IT OUT. I ALSO HEARD ABOUT THIS
PROGRAM FROM: DAVID.NASHANU.EDU.AU (DAVID
NASH), KACCS.UMN.EDU (MICHAEL KAC), ALLENMPI.NL
(SHANLEY ALLEN), AND
LB527%ALBNYVMS.BITNETUACSC2.ALBANY.EDU (LEE
BICKMORE)

HERE IS MORE INFO ON IT:
 I have mailed you a disk containing the program Renumber.
Please feel free to pass along a copy of the disk to colleagues you
think might find it useful. Please make sure to copy everything on
the disk and please point out to them that Renumber is not public
domain or free software and that registration is expected if they plan
to use the software on an ongoing basis.

 The disk also has documentation on it. Here, briefly, is an
overview. Renumber needs to be able to find the example numbers
in your document, and therefore you need to modify your
documents slightly a follows. All examples should have the format:

 ($N10) This is example ten.

 All references to examples in your text should have the format:
"This is a reference to example ($10) contained in some text."
References to a particular example may appear before the example
itself. There should be one and only one ($Nx) for any x in a
document. ('N' is supposed to be a mnemonic for 'new example'.)

 You can automate this process by using macros or key
redefinitions. You can also add '$'s to existing documents with
search and replace. Unfortunately, you cannot blindly search and
replace, or you will end up with '$' in dates and other
parentheticals.

 You can also format '$' in hidden text format, which helps keep
examples aligned. When you renumber a document, you must save
the document to RTF format. You'll have to chose 'Save As...' from
the 'File' menu, and then select the Rich Text Format option from
the formats list that will appear. After you renumber the document,
you'll then have to reload the RTF file.


I have tried ReNumber. It did the work, but it was rather
cumbersome to use. If you can afford it, I would rather recomend an
application named FrameMaker, which has the possibility for
automatically renumbering built in. I don't know the price in the
US, but it should cost a few hundred dollars to the academic
community. This application is a advanced word processor/layout
program, intended at technical writing, books and thelike.
I have used it for my MA, and especially for the renumbering, it
worked like a dream! Though it requires a little set-up, and you
might find it hard to use the first time.
...
>Thanks so much for the information--that product doesn't happen
>to line up text and glosses, does it? Who makes it?
You're welcome! The maker is "Frame Technology", a US company
(I don't know the exact address, ask some "computer guy". If you
can't find one, tell me, and I will look for the address here). It
does not by itself line up text and glosses, but it has very extensive
formating tools, and an equally extensive table tool that may be used
for such work. I don't do line-ups very much myself, so I haven't
tried out all the possibilities.
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