LINGUIST List 6.1198

Fri Sep 1 1995

Qs: Anaphora, Classifiers, Finnish

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  1. Bob Hamilton, Scandinavian anaphora
  2. Ulli Wa_ner, Query: Chinese numeral classifiers
  3. Kawagashira Nobuyuki, Question: Is Finnish a mora language?

Message 1: Scandinavian anaphora

Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:08:56 Scandinavian anaphora
Subject: Scandinavian anaphora

I have questions about the Norwegian anaphor _seg selv_
and questions about Icelandic _hann sjalfur_ and _sjalfur

Regarding _seg selv_, can it be locally bound by an object
NP that is logocentric (i.e., where the object NP has the
relevant discourse properties to logophorically bind--e.g.,
Sells 1987). I have seen the following judgment in Hellan
1991, but the object here is not logocentric:

*Vi fortalte Jon om seg selv
 (where Jon = seg selv)

Would the above still be ungrammatical if Jon were logocentric
(e.g., if the statement was instead something like "We heard
from Jon about selfself", where Jon = selfself)?

Concerning Icelandic, according to Hyams and Sigurjonsdottir
1990, _sjalfan_ in the anaphor _sjalfan sig_ is inflected for
gender and number. Is this true of _sjalfur_ in _hann sjalfur_
as well? (I don't know Icelandic, but I assume that "sjalfan"
is simply an inflected variation of "sjalfur" -- my question then
is whether this element in the complex "hann sjalfur" ever
varies its inflection for gender/number or any other feature
in the same way as it does in "sjalfan/sjalfa/sjalfra sig")

Please reply directly to me, and I will summarize for the list if
there is sufficient interest. Thanks so much,

Bob Hamilton, University of South Carolina
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Message 2: Query: Chinese numeral classifiers

Date: Don, 31 Aug 95 10:46:59 MEQuery: Chinese numeral classifiers
From: Ulli Wa_ner <>
Subject: Query: Chinese numeral classifiers

Does anybody out there know of anyone who is currently working on Chinese
numeral classifiers? I would be greatful for any information on this topic.
Thank you very much in advance

Ulli Wassner
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Message 3: Question: Is Finnish a mora language?

Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:41:21 Question: Is Finnish a mora language?
From: Kawagashira Nobuyuki <>
Subject: Question: Is Finnish a mora language?

 Dear Readers,
 I am a graduate student in Japan. Several years ago I visited Finland.
I felt that Speaking of Finnish language is difficult for European students.
But for me, Japanese, it's easy to pronounce Finnish. I had an impression of
phonological similarity between Finnish and Japanese. My Question is that:
'Is Finnish a mora (morenzaehlende) language?'
 For example: Japanese is a mora language as you know.
In Japanese a long vowel is treated as two moras.
 1. gakkoo ga-k-ko-o 'school'
 2. hattatsu ha-t-ta-tsu 'development'
 3. sen'en se-n-e-n '1000 yen'
 4. sennen se-n-ne-n '1000 years'
 5. seeen se-e-e-n 'encouragement'
 6. seenen se-e-ne-n 'adolescent'
 I think Finnish language is a mora language. I will show mora separation
examples in Finnish as follows:
 7. viikko vi-i-k-ko 'week'
 8. Suomessa su-o-me-s-sa 'in Finland'
 9. kaupunki ka-u-pu-n-ki 'town'
10. kirje ki-r-je 'letter'
11. sillan si-l-la-n 'of bridge'
12. silta si-l-ta * 'bridge'
13. kahvi ka-h-vi * 'coffee'
14. juoksen ju-o-k-se-n * 'I run'
15. opisto o-pi-s-to * 'college'
16. matka ma-t-ka * 'trip'
17. pankki pa-n-k-ki * 'bank'
18. pirtti pi-r-t-ti * 'living room'
19. silkki si-l-k-ki * 'silk'
But I have many questionable examples which is marked * above. Is Finnish
a mora language? If so, how do we separate into moras.
Thank you.

 Nobuyuki Kawagashira
 General Linguistics, University of Tsukuba
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