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This message concerns use of the Linguist list as a means of doing research and recommends that posters self-censor. I have noticed over the past year an increase in the number of posts to the list of the form, "I am interested in finding out about X. Can anyone out there tell me how to? where X is some language or property or other of languages. What I find objectionable about many of these queries is that they could be answered by simply going to the nearest library; that is, the special expertise of subscribers to the list is not necessary in order to find out the answers to many of these questions. Even worse, from summaries and ensuing discussion of the responses I've seen, I fear that people posting these queries actually treat the responses they get from subscribers as sufficient answers to their questions, rather than as a stimulus to genuine research in such traditional settings as libraries. The virtue of the information sources available in these more traditional settings is that they presumably have been vetted for accuracy and completeness, a virtue unattainable for posts to the list. I suspect that what prompts these queries is many cases is how convenient it is to post to the list. In some other cases, it is clear that the poster is new to the field and genuinely needs help just finding out how to get access to whatever information is available. These latter posts are, I think, entirely legitimate uses of the list. However, in many cases, it appears that such a person is posting to the list at the recommendation of an instructor, i.e. someone who presumably does know how get such access. These posts are quite objectionable, as that instructor is passing off his/her responsibility to teach the student how to do research to the list subscribers. As we cannot ask Helen and Anthony to censor these sorts of messages from the list, what I urge subscribers to do is pause before posting, to think whether the answer cannot be obtained in another way, perhaps just not as conveniently. A final argument: we have to sift through so much informational chaff every day to find the wheat that we need or want, that any efforts to limit its mass should be appreciated. I invite discussion on this point. John Kingston Linguistics Dept., South College University of Massachusetts Amherst, MA 01003 kingstonMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issuecoins.cs.umass.edu (413) 545-6837; fax -2792 ________________________________________________________ [Moderators' Note: I just wanted to thank John, on behalf of the LINGUIST staff, for bringing this up for discussion. Use of the Net to find easy answers seems to be increasing (see message below). We try to filter out obviously naive queries ("What is language?" "Has anybody ever written anything on Latin?"), but it is a thankless, and rather difficult, job. Often you don't recognize an obvious question if it isn't in your field. So any self-censorship subscribers can do will be much appreciated. -Helen]
I'm writing to report on a use of the Internet that strikes me as cheating, and to enquire whether any Linguist List subscribers have encountered similiar problems, and what you've done about it. I recently set a 'mini-grammar' assignment for a course in descriptive and typological linguistics, giving my students a 90 sentence data set from an 'unknown language' (Bugis, in fact). To constrain the form of their solutions, I additionally provided them with a series of guiding questions to be answered. Shortly afterwards I received an email from Chris Culy (Department of Linguistics, University of Iowa) to query the legitimacy of a request that he'd received asking for assistance in analysing data from an unknown language. It appears that a student of mine has used the Internet to access the Iowa Linguist's Dept's Web page, got Chris' address, and mailed him requesting help in doing my assignment. The request, as received by Chris, looked like this: ____________________________________________________ Dear Sir, > I was wondering if you would be able to give me some information >on a language spoken in South-East Asia. The name language is unknown to >me, but I do have some examples: > >1. laoka? ki marege? => I am going to Marege? >2. laoki? ki marege? => We are going to Marege? >3. polei taue => The man is coming. >4. pole bosi rajae => Heavy rain came. >5. ri barugai lab(backward e)dde =>Beddu is in the meeting house. > >Could you please help me with the verbs and nouns. Are you able to >descibe the allomorphs and their conditioning please. Also if you have >any information of the verbal construction of intransitive and transitive >verbs etc it would be great. > >Thanks _________________________________________________________ Pretty desperate stuff, I'm sure you'll agree, but this raises some real concerns. When we set 'unknown language' assignments, there is always a temptation for students to try grammar browsing. In my experience it usually gets them nowhere, and in fact (especially where we simplify data) it can actually trip them up. However this kind of direct appeal for help in analysing data falls clearly into the category of cheating in my book, and I'm sure that it would be classified as 'improper conduct' according to the rules of my faculty. In this particular case, the issue is further clouded by the use of an intermediary. The original request comes from a student email account holder at my university, but this student is not enrolled in my course. I'm guessing that some student of mine is just using a friend's account to access the Web. I'm currently working out the best way to 'flush out' the identity of the person who initiated the request. Meantime, I have a couple of questions. * Did any other Linguist List subscribers also received this request? * Has anyone encountered similar attempts by students to use email to get assignment help? * If so, what did you do about it? Please direct responses to these questions directly to me at; nreidMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issuemetz.une.edu.au I'll post a summary, if appropriate. * Generally speaking I believe that legitimate queries for information on the List are fairly readily distinguishable from blatant requests for people to 'do work for you'. Nevertheless, it may be worth while making it a clearly stated component of our List etiquette, that we treat iffy looking requests with due suspicion. I would never have discovered this attempt to cheat if Chris Culy had not bothered to chase up my departmental address and query the legitimacy of the meassage he received. And I suspect that this is not the first and last time that email, the List, and Web sites have been used in this way. Please address any discussion about this final point to the List. cheers Nicholas Reid Dept of Linguistics University of New England Australia nreid
metz.une.edu.au