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I was curious if anyone was actually interested in verifying whether Armey's slip was actually a slip. But since someone has asked what the time delay between the utterance of "Barney Fag" and his correction: having heard a replay, I would say the delay was less than a second. IMO, the utterance was definitely a slip and not a slur. Other factors would support this conclusion, apart from the delay, phonology, etc., primary among them the fact that Armey isn't stupid. He's a Ph.D. in Economics, and has the political savvy to get himself elected majority whip. Only the politically (or linguistically) tendentious would be likely to assert that someone of his political skills would think it to his advantage to make such an utterance. What a shame it was to see members of this list anxious to use their professional skills (or to abuse them) in order to make a political point. Two weeks into this discussion and only now does anyone actually inquire into the data. It makes one wonder how much linguistic research is driven by other agendas, and what the quality of that research is... Dave WhartonMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue