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Further to Chew Kian-Shen's discussion of Singapore English as a "native English". Rodrik Wade recommended the term, "New Englishes". This is another term fraught with problems, not least historical (Jamaican English and Indian English, usually classified as "New" are older than Australian and New Zealand English, usually classified as "Old"). Two issues are involved: (1) The classification of varieties, based on their history. (2) The classification of individuals, based on their personal experience. As far as (1) goes, there are varieties of English which can be described as contact varieties, in the sense that substantial parts of their structure (whatever "substantial" means) reflect influence from other languages, which are the result of a break in normal transmission (Weinreich, Thomason & Kaufman), perhaps in the current generation, perhaps centuries ago. The Standard varieties of countries like Singapore, India, Nigeria, Jamaica etc. are by this definition *not* contact varieties, although they exist side by side with varieties which certainly are. Similarly, there are parts of the UK and Ireland where there has been a break in normal transmission, but the Englishes spoken in most of these areas now shows little trace of this. Anthea Anthea Fraser GUPTA English Language & Literature National University of Singapore Kent Ridge e-mail: ellguptaMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issuenus.sg Singapore 0511 telephone: (65) 772 3933