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In regard to Roger Lass's comments on tS vs. t#S (or C^ vs tS, as he puts it), I'd like to comment that the pronunciation for t#S that he gives may not pertain for many American English speakers. I think I'm not alone in having something like [?S] (? = glottal stop, S = esh) or [raised-?tS] in the t#S case. In any case, as he indicates, the difference is one of a phonetic detail that is simply invisible in certain styles of phonological transcription. John E. Koontz NIST:CAML:SCED 883.04 Boulder, CO koontzMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueboulder.nist.gov