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aeulenbeMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueindiana.edu (Alex Eulenberg) wrote in 7.533 (responding to Robin Allott, 7.512): > Robin, you seem to be saying that any theory which finds linguistic > categories in more general laws of human physiology or psychology must be > compatible Darwin's theory of evolution in order for it to be > scientifically valid. > [...] > I think what you say is untrue, in particular when you say "Darwinian > processes" (by this I assume you mean survival of the fittest) "account > for all other animal and human forms and behaviours." In fact, Darwinism > can only account for trivial differences, such as variations in shape, > size and color -- but Darwinism does not answer questions about the origin > of truly novel structures. On the contrary, I believe it can be (and has been) established that _Darwinian_ evolution is not merely necessary but sufficient to explaining the biological diversity that we see around us; and understanding how and why this can be is vital to linguistics. Note that I underlined "Darwinian", since the theory that is supported by the evidence is the one involving the perpetuation of the gene-lines of highly reproducing individuals, the "survival of the fittest [=most surviving]", rather than the positively mediaeval notion of "survival of the fittest [=most like me]" which is more usually ascribed to Darwin in school and on television. One conceptual breakthrough we have seen in the last couple of decades is "selfish gene" theory, which explains "altruistic" behaviour in genetic terms by sharpening the identification of the "individuals" to which evolution applies to genetic structures rather than their macroscopic manifestations per se. This is important because it allows us to see how things that are not encoded purely genetically (including linguistic or cultural structures) can also get in on the act, once genetics has "licensed" them by providing suitable hardware (that is, there is automatically a meme -> gene transfer once the gene -> meme system is established). That still leaves the puzzle discussed under names such as "missing links" or (in other circles) the "punctuated equlibrium" model. What is going on here is that genes exhibit a quasi-heirarchic control structure in which one gene can control another gene's expression and even the _error rate_ permitted when it is reproduced. The consequence is that the evolutionary mechanism _itself_ is subject to evolution - all well within the framework of Darwin's very elegant theory - and genetic organisations that favour favourable mutations and reduce the likelihood of fatal (or more importantly, inefficiently fatal!) ones are, in the extreme long term, themselves favoured. "Rapid-deployment evolution" is an evolved strategy that relies on segregating the mechanics of biochemistry from those of, for instance, body plan, or on a more superficial level still, colouration (I'm a decade behind the times on this stuff, but if you want some hard evidence of this phenomenon I'd guess you could do worse than to look into work on the "homeobox" genes). The relevance that this has for linguistics is twofold. First, it re-establishes the plausibility of evolution as the principle underlying the biological stratum - and in the absence of any mechanically satisfactory competing proposal that I know of, Occam's razor suggests that we maintain it as our working hypothesis (while, of course, turning any further evidence that may turn up to its validation, as appropriate). Second, it meshes with and is reinforced by what is hopefully actually clearer in diachronic linguistics than in biology: that certain structures (whether biological, syntactic, lexical or morphological) are common _because_ they are enduring once they occur, and they are enduring because they are either "self-protecting" in their context or readily protected by related structures in their environment (which might in turn be enduring or - and this is important - cyclically recurring). Perhaps the most important observations of all are (a) that modularity is often an evolutionarily favoured phenomenon because of its chaos-resisting properties, and (b) that evolution provides, and continues to provide, _cross_-modular links, while synchronic mechanisms are restricted to intra-modular interactions and limited interface phenomena. If evolution appears to be implausible, it may be because you are forgetting that the mechanisms of evolution evolve. This is where our in traditional terms not especially "fit" species cashes in - we adapt furthest and fastest. stephen p spackman <stephen
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2) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 11:54:31 CDT From: aeulenbeMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueindiana.edu (Alex Eulenberg) Subject: Economy, Minimalism, and Formalism, re: 7.517 This post makes a very common error: it is a refutation of "gradualism" rather than a refutation of "selection", and it falls into many of the common errors about evolution. First: evolution occurs when a piece of data is "codified" into the next generation. There are two basic areas of codification: location and genetics. Most evolution is currently concerned with genetic evolution rather than locational, or more accurately, ecological evolution. The steps of evolution must be small, however a small change in DNA can have a large change in the final organism, displace one base pair in one protien and you can have a functional genetic code become unfunctional. The difference, litterally, between life and death. The traits, that we see, are not the things which change gradually, to think of gradual trait change as evolution is known in evolutionary circles as "Lamarkian" evolution. It is a basic error. Secondly genetic changes can pile up between large trait changes. This is, in the language of xaos theory, known as "emmergance", that is order seemingly suddenly arising, because what has really happened is that a large number of changes have suddenly become dependant or focused upon a much smaller area, changes in that area have a much greater impact on the system as a whole. To see emmergant behavior in action, take a pile of iron shavings and drop them on a pice of paper. Benath the table rapidly mobe up a powerful magnet. "Suddenly" the fillings will fall into a pattern. What has really happened is: 1. the fillings are organized by the magnet. 2. the magnet is organized by your hand. 3. your hand is controlled by the motor sections of your brain. Thus the movement of a few electrons in your brain can organize a much larger numbe of electrons in the iron fillings, and so on. When seeing macro evolutionary changes one should look for the single protien change which triggers them and then follow the protien changes which took place to get to that point. This sort of non-trivial change has been seen, and does not require any macro external force because the system is internally capable of emmergant behavior. (There is a proof you can do out for this one if you care to). In order to follow evolution then, one needs to trace the micro steps of *protien* and then see how those micor steps can produce, under certain conditions, macro-steps of trait. - - I submit that language is such an emmergant macro step, that it is compose of individual sections of the brain, and therefore of the protien formation mechanisms and receptor patterns that create those sections, each one of which can evolve to the point where emmergence is possible without language at a high level being the selecting factor. Once linguistic mechanisms reach this point, all that is required is a micro (protien) mutation which causes certain very small regions of the brain to organize the linguistically attuned areas into a larger structure. Once this happens language is so useful that it can easily be seen to be a large advantage to those croups of humans that uniformly possess it. I submit that the fossil record bears this out, we see a long period with skulls of early sapiens (which I label "eos") with an admixture of traits found in later, branches, and now extinct ones, along with clearly erectine features. In other words a hodge-podge. Then very rapidly a few skull types crystalize out: one lineage clearly leads to neaderthal, the other to moderns. What has happened? There were a welter of forms, each representing an admixture of different proportions of brain section growth. At some point a few of these forms became organized around a few small areas of the brain, and thus codified, the small areas, being small, had little ability to adapt to a welter of different organizations, and thus could only organize effectively within certain patterns (two main ones and a host of subsidiary ones), anything outside of this "fractal cone" of possibilities yileds no lingusitic ability, or severely hampered lingustic ability. We can see the boundaries of this cone in action today based on lesion, stroke and malformation of brain parts. Certain other forms which are radically different in brain topology can also fall under this fractal cone: most specifically ones where highly excited regions of the brain map all of the functions normally spread over the entire brain. I know of only low level examples of this in stroke recovery, but there is no reason, in principle, that even people with large amounts of brain lesion/disfunction, could not also fall under this fractal cone. The probabilty as the amount of brain material disfunction occurs drops rapidly, also people whose divisions of cognitive function are more specialized (ie men in general, and anyone exposed to larger amounts of androgens in the critical fetal period where brain specialization occurs) will have a harder time recovering from lesser lesions, but greater probability of recovering from larger lessions. - - I am sorry to bring in so much that is normally outside of the range of linguistics proper: however it seems that there are some misconsceptions both as to the functioning of evolutionary systems in general, and emmergant linguistic centers in particular that need to be pointed out. The outline presented above is meant as merely a back drop: it does not favore either side of the question of lingusitically specific mechanisms, we often see organs with multiple functions become devoted to one later on, and conversely we often see sinlge purpose organs/systems widden their base later. This means that there could be sections of the brain, which whatever their previous function now do language and only language. Similarly there could be sections of the brain that developed almost exclusively for language, which now do other things as well. Only PET scans and neurobiology will tell for sure. But this, in itself, should be reassuring to lingusitics in general: we can begin to attempt to map the sorts of brain pattern functioning that we would expect to see given certain lingusitic to general cognition pairings, and then test to see whether that pattern does indeed come up, find our errors and cycle through again. It also means that we can come to general definitons of root function, since we can make definitions based on the universal mappings of brain function, rather than structural functions in some particular language or language group. Further we can also extend lingustic analysis into other modes of behavior where we can see that the organizing sections of the brain are linguistically oriented and we would then expect them to organize their section of the activity along lines similar to language, and thus create patterns of behavior outside of an individuals language, which never the less relate clearly to their native language.
While I do not believe LINGUIST List is an appropriate forum for the discus- sion of evolution vs. "creation science", I'd like to recommend to the sceptics like Alex Eulenberg that they consider *The Beak of the Finch* by Wiener. This is mostly the story of a team of ornithologists who have studied the Galapagos finches for many years and, literally, observed evolution in action; it also describes a number of other studies showing evolution at work. I do not know the Denton book; but typically, attacks on evolution claim that because biologists argue about the details, the entire observed edifice is shaky. In essence, "evolution" is a fact; numerous theories are proposed that describe it more or less accurately, and, just as in any science, progress is made by accumulating disproofs, stimulating refinements, etc. Evolution hap- pened, and contunues to happen. Antibiotic-resistant bacteria; killer bees; the lemurs of Madagascar.Mail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue
At the risk of getting off the subject, I feel compelled to respond to Alex Eulenberg's comments on Darwinism. If the main point is that synchronic linguistic theory need not be "compatible" with Darwinian theory, I agree, trivially, because I feel the purview of the theories are orthogonal. But I must disagree with all of Eulenberg's subsequent points. In particular, I firmly believe: 1. Darwinism (evolution through inherited random variation and natural selection) is quite capable of accounting for all observed differences between species. 2. Darwinism is very well supported by direct and indirect evidence from paleontology and biology. 3. Darwinian theory is the result of standard scientific method of inference, involving (as do all empirical sciences) theories that are in principle falsifiable by observation, and experiments whose results agree with the predictions of the theory. I hope this list is not coopted by debate on these points (I believe they are basically irrelevant to most linguistic research), but I could not leave Eulenberg's statements unchallenged, as this could lead to the incorrect impression that his views were generally accepted. -AMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue