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Although I have unfortunately lost the original questions posed by Chris Hogan on the falsifiability of OT, I believe the response of Joaquim Brandao de Carvalho (LINGUIST 8-670) presents an image of OT that does not necessarily have to be correct (how's that for prudence?). Note that these remarks contain a very rough sketch of some ideas on language and that I am more than open to positive criticism and adaptation of these ideas. Carvalho writes: > Even if OT specified which constraints are permitted in the theory, >the entire theory would probably not be affected whenever constraints >might be shown to be 'falsified'. The reason is that constraint >falsification could always be viewed by OT supporters as constraint >violation.< I believe this is precisely what does NOT apply if OT specifies what type of constraints are permitted in the theory. This is done by many OT'ers (cf. the discussion on phonetics and OT on the Optimality List last February). This has to do with the second point Carvalho makes: > The important point, from which it can be shown that OT is >NOT a linguistic theory nor a theory tout court, is that constraints >are formally arbitrary and thereby circular. Let us take constraints >like 'syllables must have onsets' or 'syllables must not have codas'. >These constraints are arbitrary insofar as nothing but empirical >observation tells us why onsets should be obligatory, while codas >should not. This is simply not true. There are a number of, for example, functional explanations for the fact that VC syllables are more marked than V syllables, which in turn are more marked than CV syllables. The sounds are better perceived and/or articulation is easier (rule number 1: Do as little as possible!). Functional considerations such as those posed by, for example, Flemming (1995): I More contrast is good II Bigger contrast is good (there should be some minimal distance between two characteristics) III Easy articulation is good can well by applied to make this point. Once it is acknowledged that OT constraints should NOT be allowed to be randomly stated, but should find their origin in `functional' or even `cognitive' or `biological' factors, it serves as a highly useful description of how different and often competing factors influence the way we use language, the way language develops, and the possible ways in which natural human languages can be variable. In this view, language is a result of certain possible cognitive structures/processes, the wish to communicate as much and as nuanced as possible, and the natural characteristic to make this cost as little energy as possible. It is even quite possible to imagine how the latter two have influenced, or even formed the first, during the many years of the development of our cognitive and genetic characteristics (and vice versa?), but it is not essential to the framework. I wish to emphasize (for obvious reasons) that this is not a behaviorist point of view. Constraints CAN thus be falsified if they are not rooted in factors such as those described above. I do believe this may serve as an argument against Carvalho's statement that OT is necessarily circular in its approach to, for instance, syllable structure. On the other hand, it has to be acknowledged that many OT'ers still do not apply these considerations in the definitions of constraints and that in these cases Carvalho's point is totally valid. Dirk den Ouden =========================== Dirk-Bart den Ouden Department of Dutch University of Groningen P.O. Box 716 9700 AS GRONINGEN Tel: +31 (0)50 - 3637412 ===========================Mail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issue
Joaquim Brandao de Carvalho (LINGUIST 8-670) makes some interesting points with regard to the formal status of OT, as regards other 'theories'. As far as I follow his remarks, he argues for two points: 1. >constraint falsification could always be viewed by OT supporters as >constraint violation. Now, as is well-known, OT constraints are violable by >definition. As Joaquim points out, the fast that this is alowed in OT is its main point of difference with other linguistic theories; it takes account of the exceptions better than do the other theories out there, and as Joaquim points out, "let us not be afraid of exceptions ; exceptions do exist, and are, thereby, marked". All generalisations in all theories of linguitics are violable/find exceptions, and this should not be a stumbling block to using them (provided the exceptions don't outnumber the rules!). He then makes an unusual critique about OT methodology: 2. >The important point, from which it can be shown that OT is NOT a linguistic >theory nor a theory tout court, is that constraints are formally arbitrary >and thereby circular. ... [example follows showing that, in essence, OT constraints are based merely on an examination of a large corpus of lingustic data rather than a theory-internal reason, concluding with:] >Why is a given system unmarked rather than marked ? >Because it fails to violate the constraints posited by the theory. But why >does the theory posit a given constraint rather than its contrary ? >Because this is what we find in unmarked systems. now, it seems to me that two points are raised here: 1: the basis for positing any lingusitic theory 2: details of the architecture of that theory With respect to 1, surely we are going to posit any model of linguistic patterning on a large corpus of data (either from one language or from many), and on the basis of the observations we make with respect to that data, conclude that certain elements need to be incorporated or discarded from the assumptions that we come to view the data with. Rather than being arbitrary, this process of observation, inference, testing, and refinement is in fact a responsible approach to modelling, and through that deriving a theory of, lingusitic systems. An approach that simply decides on an approach before any data is considered would be guilty of not responding to the experimental stimulus, in this case data. With regard to 2, the way in which the architecture of any theory works is going to reflect the need to model the greatest amount of data possible - the least marked form - as economically as possible, and account for the left-over s- the marked forms, the exceptions - with as little extra architecture as possible. The wayn in which these differences in markedness are handled will of course vary from model to model, and in the case of OT it depends on a set of ranked constraints. Finally, Joaquim says that: >In sum, OT must run after the facts because it does not provide an >independent theory of markedness (for syllable structure in the present >case), contrary to what should be expected from a real linguistic theory. Again, I find two points are salient here: 3: OT has no theory-internal reasons for judging markedness 4: a 'real' lingusitic theory should have its own motivations With respect to 3: This is a very good point, and the fact that OT is very data-grounded, and contains very little intervention between the data and the output (predictions, selection of candidates) is a reason for perhaps considering it to be a model of the data, rather that a theory. However, as pointed out above, all theories judge markedness only on the basis of a corpus of data. This ties in with a discussion of 4: However, in essence that is all that any of the linguistic 'theories' in widespread use do: model data, with various degrees of success, arbitrariness, and complexity. Some (most) theories include large mechanisms between the data and the predictions / gramamticality judgements, but they still derive these mechanisms from a study of real lingusitic data and an attempt to generalise a principle over these data. In that sense, all of the 'theories' are really more or less abstract models of lingusitic competence, rather than independent construals of the way languages should work. The fact that all theories are based on linguistic data, rather than idealised conceptions, says a great deal about the empiricism built into the field.since its beginnings all those thousands of years ago. The fact that one theory has managed to rach its predictions and gramamticality judgements without too much (essentially arbitrary, if we factor out actual linguistic data) architecture, should not be seen as a drawback, but rather as an enviable asset. It means, in effect, that the model with the least internal complexity is most free to adapt and learn from other models of language - witness the use of OT by phonologists, LFG syntacticians, GB syntacticians, and many more (sorry for not listing everything - see the recent linguist posting of the Hopkins OT workshop's set of papers and posters for a very topical reminder of the range of practitioners of OT). In sum, the motivations for any model/theory of linguistics should be, and are, based in langauge data; most models/theories have internal structure of varying degrees of opaqueness, and it happens that OT is on the low end of that scale, proceeding from input ot output without too much architecture. So be it. _____________________________ Mark Donohue Department of Linguistics University of Manchester Manchester M13 9PL England mark.donohueMail to author|Respond to list|Read more issues|LINGUIST home page|Top of issueman.ac.uk + 44 - (0)161 275 3259 _____________________________