LINGUIST List 8.742

Fri May 16 1997

Qs: Perfect, Practical Phonetics

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  1. Stuart Robinson, Special Treatment for the Perfect
  2. Mark Janse, Practical Phonetics

Message 1: Special Treatment for the Perfect

Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:46:21 +1000
From: Stuart Robinson <>
Subject: Special Treatment for the Perfect

 [Editor's Note: The query below is reposted as per
 author's request since the symbols for 'equal' and 'not
 equal' were not displayed legibly in the previous message] 

I am investigating case-marking splits by tense/aspect and have
learned of splits which treat clauses in the perfect (as defined
by Comrie, 1976) quite differently than clauses in other
tense/aspect categories. In particular, I am looking for
languages where either O is equal to S or S is not equal to A in
the perfect but either S is equal to A or O is not equal to S
holds elsewhere. Apparently, Classical Armenian is such a
language: A is equal to S in the aorist (past perfective) and imperfective
but not in the perfect, where A is not equal to S.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Stuart Robinson
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Stuart Robinson <>
Linguistics Department
Australian National University
Canberra ACT 0200
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Message 2: Practical Phonetics

Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:46:50 +0200
From: Mark Janse <>
Subject: Practical Phonetics

I am looking for reference works in practical phonetics
describing phonetic aspects of sound changes such as, e.g.,
palatalization. The reason is that I want to provide evidence
from contemporary languages and their dialects to illustrate the
reality of various phonetic processes students have to come to
grips with in a course on historical linguistics. I don't know
if anything like a database of phonetic processes is available,
but that would certainly be a desideratum.

Mark Janse
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