LINGUIST List 9.774

Sat May 23 1998

Disc: Recent change in English

Editor for this issue: Elaine Halleck <elainelinguistlist.org>


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  1. Jim Swanson, Re: 9.768, Disc: Recent Change in English
  2. Michael Hughes, Re: 9.758, Disc: English Change
  3. Earl Herrick, recent changes in English: "fun"

Message 1: Re: 9.768, Disc: Recent Change in English

Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:45:33 CST
From: Jim Swanson <swansonjcolumbia.dsu.edu>
Subject: Re: 9.768, Disc: Recent Change in English

I think that fun as an adjective has long been used as an adjective 
in the predicate position. I have heard and used the following many 
times over the years.:

 That game was more fun than the other.

It would not do to use the other examples of a stone house or a 
diamond ring in that construction:

 *That house was more stone than the other.
 *That ring was more diamond than the other.

But other adjectives would certainly apply.

 That house was more beautiful than the other.
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Message 2: Re: 9.758, Disc: English Change

Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Hughes <hughesling.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: 9.758, Disc: English Change

> 
> Date: Thu, 21 May 98 08:14 EDT
> Subject: "Fun" adjective or noun
> 
> The difference is that nouns don't have comparatives:
> 
> 	* a more stone house
> 	* a more diamong ring
> 	% a more fun game
> 
> -Joel Hoffman
> (joelexc.com)

	Out here in the west, the proper comparative for the adjective 
'fun' is, of course, 'funner', as in:

	"Oh, dude, this game is (way) funner than that one."
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Message 3: recent changes in English: "fun"

Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:09:31
From: Earl Herrick <kfemh00tamuk.edu>
Subject: recent changes in English: "fun"

The question of whether "fun" is becoming an adjective only arises if
one has been bemused by the usual schoolroom definitions of the
so-called eight parts of speech. English, being a Germanic language,
allows nouns to modify nouns. So "This is a fun game." has the same
syntax as "This is a card game."
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