LINGUIST List 9.985

Tue Jun 30 1998

Qs: Borrowing, Translation, Stress loss

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  1. El-Kareh/Tharwat, Borrowing
  2. Beverly Adab, Linguistics and Translation
  3. Ian Watering, loss of stress in "double-stress" words

Message 1: Borrowing

Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:44:58 +0300
From: El-Kareh/Tharwat <>
Subject: Borrowing

I have a student who works on borrowing in the arabic language.
we are trying to find out the hypotheses governing the borrowed words:
phonological and morphological hypotheses
we would like to draw comparisons with other languages and see the
different behavior of languages and the universals features
thanks if any information works ondifferent languages and if any on
arabic especially
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Message 2: Linguistics and Translation

Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:47:22 +0100
From: Beverly Adab <>
Subject: Linguistics and Translation

This is a general enquiry :

I specialise in Translation Studies/ French but would like to pursue
further research into the/ any links between Linguistics and Translation,
as perceived by contemporary scholars of Linguistics (ie the past decade
or so).

Any suggestions for reading/ sources would be much appreciated. Of course I
shall also search the various web pages listed in a recent e-mail message.

thank you

Beverly Adab

Dr Beverly Adab,
M.I.L., Dip. Trans
Lecturer in French and Translation Studies
(Examinations Officer)
School of Languages and European Studies
Aston University
Aston Triangle

tel + 0121 359 3611 (ext 5104)
fax + 0121 359 6153
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Message 3: loss of stress in "double-stress" words

Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:49:42 +0200
From: Ian Watering <>
Subject: loss of stress in "double-stress" words

In connected speech, words of this type tend to lose one of the stresses
in British English. Thus "Berlin" is stressed differently in phrases
like "The Berlin Wall"" and "The Wall in Berlin". Similarly, "princess"
in "Princess Mary" and "Mary the princess". The pattern seems to be that
the word loses the stress closest to another stress in the phrase.
Does the same hold true for standard American English. In other words,
would an American stress the first syllable of "Berlin" and "Princess"
in the phrases "Berlin Wall" and "Princess Mary", but the second
syllable in the other contexts - "Wall in Berlin" and "Mary the

The reason I ask is that I am British and I teach English in Norway.
Many of my students have been to the States for a while but are unsure
about American pronunciation in this matter. Perhaps some of you could
sort it out for us.
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