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Query Subject:   Tewa/Tiwa
Author:   Dave Gough
Submitter Email:  click here to access email

Linguistic LingField(s):  Sociolinguistics
Language Acquisition
Subject Language(s):  Dutch

Query:   Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:04:27 +0200
L2 Englishes and L1 varieties

I have two queries that maybe the list could help me with.

1. The pronunciation of voiced and voiceless 'th' by L2 speakers (as in these and thing). Thing I'm interested in is that L2 Englishes with similar L1 phoneme inventories that include [f] [s] and [t] etc. 'select' different realisations of vd and vless th. For instance, in Afrikaans this is [f], in Xhosa [t] and in German [s]. Would like to get as much data about this as possible from different L2 Englishes, pidgins, creoles etc. References would also be welcome.

2. In some L1 varieties of South African English one finds with things like 'a pants' 'this pants' (ie the 'single item with two parts' is treated as singular). Doesn't work in all contexts, so that 'this glasses' is very odd. Interestingly one now finds a singular plural contrast between, believe it or not, 'a panty' 'this panty' and 'panties' 'these panties'. Are there any other L1 type of Englishes that show this? (PS Why 'pants' 'panties' but not 'bras'?)

David Gough
Department of Linguistics
University of the Western Cape
South Africa

LL Issue: 10.546
Date posted: 16-Apr-1999


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