Sum: 8.797 Language identification
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In LINGUIST #8.797 I asked:
> An acquaintance of my daughter's writes:
> Identify this language please?
> "Idolem urodo iatu a wi rot
> Ukufu kush onuoy nehawuoch
> Etia di ukoik ura nakurah
> Enadu yoimi nnesar urugem
> Eteako ich atak
> Ureatu tso oodah
> Amia wibo koro yonneie"
> I think I have a pretty good idea of what languages this is *not* (not
> a Romance language, not Germanic, not Slavic, not Chinese, Japanese,
> Vietnamese...). Also, if it translates to something really corny,
> lemme know so I can stop embarrassing myself every time I sing it.
I received replies from five people, four of whom offered
Gregory F. Roberts <email@example.com> and
Douglas Dee <Douglas.Dee@us.coopers.com> pointed me to a Web site
maintained by Nora E. Stevens,
that shows the text and explains it as the reverse of
> Tori wa utai odoru melodi,
> Chouwa hen no shukufuku.
> Harukanaru kioku idaite,
> Meguru rasen ni mioyudane.
> Katachi o kaete--
> Hadoo o tsutaeru.
> Eien no yorokobi wa ima
> They are lyrics from a role playing game called the Final
> Fantasy by Squaresoft.
[And indeed, that is what the Web site is dedicated to. The main
page of the site
> Welcome to the Opera House
> Featuring the lyrics to the sweet melodies
> of the Final Fantasy series
and it gives lyrics in English, Japanese (Romaji), Portuguese,
Italian, French, and Saami, as well as many audio files of music
Leon A Serafim <firstname.lastname@example.org> also recognized it as
"Japanese written in mirror image."
The fullest response came from Tomoyuki Kubo
<email@example.com>, who kindly gave me permission to quote
> It is the Esenapaj language,
> which is the mirror image of Japanese,
> with different word boundaries.
> The mirror image of this language is;
> Tori wa utai odoru melodii *
> Chou wa hen'you no shukufuku *
> Harukanaru kioku idaite
> Meguru rasen ni mi o yudane *
> Katachi o kaete
> Hadoo o tsutaeru
> Eien no yorokobi wa ima
(Asterisks added.) Apart from punctuation, Kubo's reversal differs
from Stevens's (which Kubo did not appear to be aware of) in the
starred lines. I am inclined to prefer Kubo's analysis, which I
infer is native while Stevens credits several other people for
help with her translations.
[* Damn and blast Indo-European obligatory pronoun gender! Just
because I don't know whether Kubo is male or female, I have to
contort my syntax to avoid specifying it.]
None of the respondents attempted to translate the text. I took
Kubo's version to a Japanese co-worker, who shook her head over
it and chuckled. "It isn't really coherent sentences," she said
[approximately], "and in some places it's ambiguous. It could be a
joke on someone trying to be pompous, but it sounds about as
stupid as a lot of Japanese lyrics." Here is my transcription of
The bird sings and dances to the melody.
Butterfly blesses the metamorphosis
hoarding far memory
entrusting the body to a spiraling helix
transmit the wave [or "undulation"]
eternal happiness is here
Thanks to all who replied!
Mark A. Mandel : Senior Linguist : firstname.lastname@example.org
Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200
320 Nevada St., Newton, MA 02160, USA : http://www.dragonsys.com/
Personal home page: http://world.std.com/~mam/
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