LINGUIST List 11.761

Mon Apr 3 2000

Qs: CHILDES Data/German, Pronoun Echo

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  1. Bettina Spreng, CHILDES data for German
  2. m.getty, Pronoun 'Echo'

Message 1: CHILDES data for German

Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:41:29 -0400
From: Bettina Spreng <>
Subject: CHILDES data for German

Hello everyone,
I am a PhD student at the University of Toronto and I am currently
exploring the merits of the CHILDES database. For some reason I cannot
figure out why running the MOR program for German does not give me
syntactic categories. It parses into words but for categorization I get
only question marks. It seems to be a problem with the lexicon or with the
parser or both but I am not sure anymore. Any hints what I might do wrong?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Bettina Spreng
PhD candidate Linguistics
U of Toronto
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Message 2: Pronoun 'Echo'

Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:56:50 -0400
From: m.getty <>
Subject: Pronoun 'Echo'

Dear Linguists!

I'm researching a peculiar pattern in a couple of Germanic
dialects according to which a pronoun adjacent to some functional head is
duplicated (with some modifications), like as in the following example
from West Flemish (where 'se' is the duplicate and 'zie' the full

'k peizn da-se zie werkt
 I think that-she she works
'I think that she works'

The adjacency requirement and the fact that this pattern occurs only in
the presence of overt pronouns (cf. *'k peizn da-se Marie werkt) leave
these data arguably distinct from better-studied phenomena such as
object doubling in various Romance dialects. 

Is anyone familiar with similar data from non-Indo-European languages?
I'll be most grateful and will post a summary of relevant responses.

Many thanks in advance,
Michael Getty
University of Toronto
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