LINGUIST List 12.1390

Mon May 21 2001

Qs: "Double Progressives", Theme in Spanish

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  1. jlc115, Double progressives?
  2. Susana Rezzano, Theme in Spanish

Message 1: Double progressives?

Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:02:24 +0100
From: jlc115 <>
Subject: Double progressives?

Some dialects of English allow the use of double aspectuals:

1. He could have not have gone.

Some American English dialects allow double modal constructions:

2. He might could have gone.

I was wondering if there are any dialects that allow double

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Message 2: Theme in Spanish

Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:38:02 -0300
From: Susana Rezzano <>
Subject: Theme in Spanish

Dear list:

I am trying to apply Theme/Rheme analysis to Spanish clauses, based on
Systemic Functional Linguistics, and I am faced with some
difficulties. I hope someone can help me. 

As you may know, the unmarked option in declarative clauses in Spanish
with a pronominal subject is with elliptical subject. For example:

�Donde est� Juan? (Where is Juan?)
Sali� de compras (Went shopping)

My question is, in a clause such as "Sali� de compras", should we consider
that the Theme is the verb (the first experiential element) or that the
Theme (�l) is elliptical?

Another question:
In Spanish, pronominal objects precede the verb in Spanish. For example:

�Donde est� Juan?
Lo vi en el bar (Him saw in the bar)

 Of course, the subject is elliptical here too, and this relates to the
previous question. But, in case I decide not to analyse Theme as elliptical
subject "I", do you think is better to analyse Theme as just the pronount
"Lo" (first experiential element) or both the pronoun and the verb?

I will be looking forward to your comments!!

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