LINGUIST List 15.3220
Tue Nov 16 2004
Qs: Finnish and Hebrew; Stress in Standard Arabic
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1. Marcello
Modesto,
Finnish and Hebrew
2. Davide
Sivero,
Stress in modern standard Arabic
Message 1: Finnish and Hebrew
Date: 15-Nov-2004
From: Marcello Modesto <marc.modesto
uol.com.br>
Subject: Finnish and Hebrew
I'm a Brazilian linguist working with null subject languages of the mixed
type (which allow pro-drop only with some persons or tenses). In the
languages I could gather information on, which so far include only Finnish
and Hebrew, 3rd person null subjects are disallowed in matrix contexts but
allowed in embedded contexts if (and, i suppose, only if) the embedded 3rd
person subject is correferent with a matrix argument:
(1) Feljeni vaimo oli niin iloinen, ettei voinut nukkua. (Finnish)
brother's wife was so happy that-not/3sg could sleep/inf.
My brother's wife was so happy that she couldn't sleep
(2) Hivtaxti lo she-yedaber kama
promised/past/1sg him that-speak/fut/3sgm as-much she-yree. (Hebrew)
that-want/fut/sgm
I promised him that he will speak as much as he wants.
I need information on the interpretation of such embedded null 3rd person
subjects. For instance, I need to know if in Hebrew and Finnish the
embedded null 3rd person subject may only refer to c-commanding antecedents
(as (1) seems to indicate) and if it generally may refer to matrix objects
as easily as to matrix subjects (as (2) seems to show).
I would really appreciate if Finnish and Hebrew speakers could exchange a
few emails with me concerning these (and other) questions on the
interpretation of such null subjects.
I would also like to hear from people who know of languages where similar
facts hold (even if, or maybe specially if, the interpretation
possibilities of the embedded null subject is slightly different than in
Finnish and Hebrew).
For those who would be willing to help, please reply directly to
marc.modesto
uol.com.br
Thanks.
Linguistic Field(s): Syntax
Subject Language(s): Finnish (Language Code: FIN)
Subject Language(s): Hebrew (Language Code: HBR)
Message 2: Stress in modern standard Arabic
Date: 15-Nov-2004
From: Davide Sivero <davidetamara
libero.it>
Subject: Stress in modern standard Arabic
Dear Sirs,
could anybody tell me the rules of the stress pattern of standard Arabic as
pronounced by Egyptian speakers? Since the stress pattern of local
colloquial Arabic usually affects the pronunciation of standard Arabic,
understanding how the stress system works in Egyptian colloquial Arabic
would be very helpful...
Hoping for an help I thank you with all my heart.
Yours sincerely,
Davide Sivero
Linguistic Field(s): Phonology
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