LINGUIST List 3.367

Sat 25 Apr 1992

Disc: Usage, Swahili, Film

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  1. Phil Gaines, Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words
  2. Major, "the" Mac
  3. "Bruce E. Nevin", nerd
  4. Mark Littlefield, Swahili
  5. Vicki Fromkin, Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words
  6. Henry Kucera, Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

Message 1: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1992 22:01:11 Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words
From: Phil Gaines <pgainesu.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

My sense is that "the" Mac is opposed to "the" PC, i.e. not computer
brands but computer types. As a Mac owner, I tend to think in terms of the
Mac world and the PC (IBM-compatible) world. A couple of uses in context:

"Now that Windows 3.0 has come out, you can do things on the PC that you
used to be able to only do on the Mac."

"The PC may be a better choice than the Mac for economy number-crunching."

Other thoughts?

Phil Gaines
University of Washington
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Message 2: "the" Mac

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1992 16:48:25 "the" Mac
From: Major <majorpta.pyramid.com.au>
Subject: "the" Mac


rybergcasbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Ryberg) writes:

> I never hear "the" with "IBM" or "Compaq" or "(X) compatible"

I have heard "the PC" many times, particularly in the context "does
anyone have <foo> software for the PC?" which is the context in which
Stephen heard "the Mac".

Major
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Message 3: nerd

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 92 07:11:39 EDnerd
From: "Bruce E. Nevin" <bnevinccb.bbn.com>
Subject: nerd

Lexicographers at Merriam-Webster give 1965 as first citation date for
"nerd," origin unknown. I find it as the name of one of the unlikely
creatures in _If I Ran the Zoo_ by Dr. Seuss, copyright 1950. It seems
plausible that some boomer plucked the epithet from there, and that it
is a Seussism. The rather frumpy creature pictured as a nerd has a
tufted crest and sideburns, and appears angry. The pages of the book
are unnumbered, but it is among a climactic flurry (like the rapid
sequences near the end of a fireworks display) that appear 8 pages from
the end. I was reading it to my daughter this weekend.

What would we do without the psychological reality of trivia!

	Bruce Nevin
	bnbbn.com
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Message 4: Swahili

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1992 12:40 EDTSwahili
From: Mark Littlefield <LITTLEMGSNYBUFVA.bitnet>
Subject: Swahili

The inscription "Msada wa kidini kwa mahujaji" is indedd Swahili. It
means either "The needed gift of religion" or "The necessary gift of
religion" or "The needed religious assistance." The word "Msada" should
be spelled "Msaada" 'gift, aid, help, support, assistance.' This is
the translation of a colleague, a native speaker and teacher of Swahili.
Mark G. Littlefield BITNET: littlemgsnybufva
Foreign Language Department INTERNET: littlemgsnybufva.cs.snybuf.edu
Buffalo State College TELEPHONE: (716) 878-5810
Buffalo NY 14222
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Message 5: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 07:24 PDT
From: Vicki Fromkin <IYO1VAFMVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

Re Gene Searchinger. He is now working on a series of films on language
for PBS and has been for the last number of years. He has received
a number of grants from NEH and NEA and some private foundations but
is still in need of more funds to complete the films so if you know
of any foundations that could help do let him (or me) know. Thehy
will be an excellent series -- or so I think based on working with
him for many years. He has interviewed and filmed many many linguists
and lots of non-linguists and we are all waiting for the completion which
I think will help to dispell a lot of the current myths about language
and linguistics.

Vicki Fromkin
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Message 6: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 92 09:52:59 EDRe: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words
From: Henry Kucera <HENRYbrownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Re: 3.354 Queries: Raising, Mac, Films, Words

 Re linguistic films: Yes, Gene Searchinger has been making a film for TV
about language, interviewing many linguists and non-linguists. He has been at
it for a few years now but just recently seems to have run out of money, so the
 project is not completed. The name of the companmy is Equinox Films, NY, Tel.
212 799-1515. My latest news is from February, so you may want to check.
Henry Kucera
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