LINGUIST List 5.274
Wed 09 Mar 1994
Qs: Nary, Survey, Jakobson quotation, Morph causativization
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Shana Walton, "nary a one" usage
, Grammar Survey
MARC PICARD, Jakobson quotation
, Query: morphological causativization
Message 1: "nary a one" usage
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:10:24 +"nary a one" usage
From: Shana Walton <swaltonwhale.st.usm.edu>
Subject: "nary a one" usage
This week I came across a usage that I've heard all my life, but I've
never had to spell before. I'm assuming it's a contraction of the longer
form "nary a one," and it's pronounced /nErn/ (well, actually there's a
retroflex schwa in there after that front mid lax vowel, not an /r/, but I
don't have an IPA font on this.) Sample usage:
"I had been to Camp Shelby and tried to get a job and I didn't get nar'n."
I didn't know how to look it up, but I did look up "nary" in the OED and
it said that "nary" was an American version of "ne'er a," but is now more
common outside of the U.S. Does that mean it should be spelled "ne'er'n"?
The most common way I remember hearing this growing up is: "tweren't nar'n."
Another person told me that he had always heard it "nar'n a one."
What do other people know about this usage? Is it confined to the
South in the U.S.? Any spelling ideas?
Mississippi Oral History Program
University of Southern Mississippi
Message 2: Grammar Survey
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 94 21:45:38 -0Grammar Survey
Subject: Grammar Survey
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Message 3: Jakobson quotation
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 11:09:26 Jakobson quotation
From: MARC PICARD <PICARDVax2.Concordia.CA>
Subject: Jakobson quotation
I'd like to know a couple of things concerning the following
quotation from Roman Jakobson:
"To my knowledge,no language adds to the pair /t/-/d/ a voiced aspirate /dh/
without having its voiceless counterpart /th/...; therefore theories operating
with the three phonemes /t/-/d/-/dh/ in Proto-Indo-European must reconsider
the question of their phonemic essence".
Can somebody tell me whether this was originally written in 1957 or
1958 - I've seen references to both - and on what page(s) it appears?
Message 4: Query: morphological causativization
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:24:46 -Query: morphological causativization
Subject: Query: morphological causativization
In a paper in preparation I want to make the claim that
morphological causativization cross-linguistically always
yields interpretation (a) and never interpretation (b).
The boy sings.
The girl CAUSE-sings the boy.
a. 'The girl acts on the boy in such a way that he sings.'
b. *'The girl acts on the boy in such a way that she sings.'
If anyone knows of counterexamples to this claim or other
work in which this claim is discussed, please let me know
by email. I will post a summary if the response so warrants.