LINGUIST List 9.724

Fri May 15 1998

Qs: CMC, ZISA database, /rg/ and /g/ clusters

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  • magura, to all those concerned with CMC [lost in bits]
  • Patrick Andre Mather, ZISA database
  • manaster, /rg/ and /g/ clusters

    Message 1: to all those concerned with CMC [lost in bits]

    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:00:59 +0200
    From: magura <>
    Subject: to all those concerned with CMC [lost in bits]

    Dear linguists, I am about to finish my master's thesis on CMC. Among thousands of bits of electronic data I have found a following piece of text which I would like to include in my thesis:

    "Messages delivered electronically are neither ?spoken? nor ?written? in the conversational sense of these words. There is an easy interaction of participants and alternation of topics typical of some varieties of spoken English. However, they cannot be strictly labeled as spoken messages since the participants neither see nor hear each other. Nor can they be concluded strictly written since many of them are composed directly online, thereby ruling out the use of planning and editing strategies which are at the disposal of even the most informal writer."

    The problem is that I don't know the source of this piece and thus I cannot put a referrence for that. I was thinking whether anybody of you knows where this piece comes from or who the author is. I would appreciate your help as I was unable to locate the work that it could come from. tafn mike ____________________________________________________________ Michal Lisecki <> or <> UIN [4324037] IRC [lisu] 'The limits of my language mean the limits of my world' L.W.

    Message 2: ZISA database

    Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:50:32 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Patrick Andre Mather <>
    Subject: ZISA database

    I am working on a project involving L1 transfer in SLA. Is there any way for me to consult the ZISA database (e.g., on CD-ROM, or on-line) to look for specific structures in L2 data? Also, are there any publications containing (portions of) the ZISA database?

    I would be grateful for any information on this subject.

    Andre Mather University of Pittsburgh

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    Message 3: /rg/ and /g/ clusters

    Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
    From: manaster <>
    Subject: /rg/ and /g/ clusters

    I know that there are languages where /rg/ and/or /lg/ clusters turn to /rj/ and/or /lj/ (using 'j' in its IPA sense equivalent to the American linguist's 'y'). But is there a language in which the change is inhibited by a following /r/ or /l/, so that hypothetically rg > rj and rg > lj but rgl, rgr, lgr, and/or lgl do not change?