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Query:   For Query 11.94: American English Flap
Author:  Jorge Guitart
Submitter Email:  click here to access email
Linguistic LingField(s):   Phonetics
Phonology
Lexicography

Summary:   SOME PEOPLE ANSWERED THE QUESTION OF WHY KENYON AND KNOTT DID NOT SHOW
THE AEF BY SAYING THAT THE TRANSCRIPTION WAS PHONEMIC RATHER THAN
PHONETIC, AS IT IS NORMALLY IN DICTIONARIES.

FINE, BUT IT STRIKES ME AS ABSURD THEN TO CALL K&K'S A PRONOUNCING
DICTIONARY
SINCE YOU DON'T PRONOUNCE PHONEMES: YOU PRONOUNCE THEIR PHYSICAL
REPRESENTATIONS. [T] IS CERTAINLY NOT WHAT HAPPENS PHYSICALLY IN ATOM,
ETC.

SOMEONE POINTED OUT THAT THE EDITORS OF THE FAMOUS (INFAMOUS WITH
SOOME PEOPLE) WEBSTER'S THIRD WERE CRITICIZED BECAUSE THEY USED SHWA.

I CAN SEE NOT TRANSCRIBING THINGS LIKE VOWEL NASALIZATION, WHICH
WOULD BE AUTOMATIC , BUT THE FLAP IS NOT AUTOMATIC IN ENGLISH IN GENERAL.
A PRONOUNCING DICTIONARY WITHOUT THE AEF CERTAINLY IS NOT A RELIABLE GUIDE
FOR FOREIGNERS.

AT LEAST ONE PERSON POINTED OUT THAT THE AEF WAS NOT WIDESPREAD WHEN K AND K
WROTE THEIR BOOK.

AS TO SOME DICTIONARIES SHOWING AEF, SEE WHAT FOLLOWS. (THANKS, TOM)

FROM:

LL Issue: 11.125
Date Posted: 22-Jan-2000
Original Query: Read original query