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Query:   Double Possessives
Author:  Tong Zhimin
Submitter Email:  click here to access email
Linguistic LingField(s):   Morphology
Syntax

Summary:   DEAR LINGUIST READERS,

THIS IS A SUMMARY OF RESPONSES TO MY QUERY ABOUT THE DOUBLE POSSESSIVE
POSTED A LONG TIME AGO. I AM EXTREMELY SORRY IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO GET
THE SUMMARY AVAILABLE.

FIRST OF ALL I WISH TO EXPRESS ONCE AGAIN MY GRATITUDE TO ALL THOSE WHO
RESPONDED TO MY POSTING:
ALLAN WECHSLER AWECHSLE@BBN.COM
BARBARA ZURER PEARSON BPEARSON@MIAMI.EDU
BERNARD COMRIE COMRIE@RCF.USC.EDU
BRADLEY HARRIS BDHARRIS@MEMPHIS.EDU (EMAIL NO LONGER APPLICABLE)
CHAD D NILEP CHAD.NILEP@ASU.EDU
CHARLES BELAIR BELAIR@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU
COLIN WHITELEY CWHITELEY@TYCO.GEIS.COM
DANIEL LOEHR LOEHRD@GUSUN.GEORGETOWN.EDU
DEBRA ZIEGELER DZIEGELE@VAXC.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
DOUGLAS DEE DOUGLAS.DEE@US.COOPERS.COM
E. BASHIR EBASHIR@UMICH.EDU
EARL HERRICK KFEMH00@TAMUK.EDU
GEORGE HUTTAR GEORGE_HUTTAR@SIL.ORG
JAKOB DEMPSEY JAKOB@INSIDE.COM.TW (EMAIL NO LONGER APPLICABLE)
KAREN DAVIS KMDAVIS@EROLS.COM
LANCE ECCLES LECCLES@LAUREL.OCS.MQ.EDU.AU
LAURA GEORGIA KNUDSEN LWRIGHT@INDIANA.EDU
LAURENCE URDANG VERBATIMBKS@AOL.COM
LISA MATTHEWSON MAGGIE@MIT.EDU
LAURENCE URDANG LUVERBATIM@AOL.COM
M. LYNNE ROECKLEIN LYNNE@CC.GIFU-U.AC.JP
MICHAEL HORLICK POLYGLOT@USA.NET
NEIL J. SQUILLANTE NSQUILLANTE@NETSQUIRE.COM
PATRICK JUOLA PATRICK.JUOLA@PSY.OX.AC.UK
PAUL H. LISTEN PLISTEN@EARTHLINK.NET
PIPE MARTIN MPIPE@BLACKWELLPUBLISHERS.CO.UK
RONALD ROSS RROSS@CARIARI.UCR.AC.CR
STEPHEN ROWLAND STEPHEN_ROWLAND@COMPUSERVE.COM
STEVEN SCHAUFELE FCOSW5@MBM1.SCU.EDU.TW
TARA L. NARCROSS NARCROSS.5@POP.SERVICE.OHIO-STATE.EDU
TERRY NADASDI TERRY.NADASDI@UALBERTA.CA

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER POSTED A QUESTION ON THE LINGUIST
NETWORK, AND WAS GREATLY ENCOURAGED BY THESE WARM-HEARTED PEOPLE WHO
ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS WITH A GREAT DEAL OF PATIENCE. THE FOLLOWING IS
THE SUMMARY. I THINK I HAVE TRIED TO PROPERLY REPRESENT EVERY
RESPONDENT'SS VIEWS, BUT I AM ALSO AWARE THAT MY SUMMARY FAILS TO COVER
ALL THE POINTS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE CORRESPONDENCE. SO I ALSO
WISH TO MAKE APOLOGIES TO THOSE WHOSE RESPONSES I FAIL TO DO JUSTICE
TO.

BRIEFLY THE TOPIC IS AS FOLLOWS. THERE ARE TWO SENTENCES:
(A) MY FATHER WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF ALBERT EINSTEIN.
(B) MY FATHER WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF ALBERT EINSTEIN'S.
(A) IS THE VERSION THAT I CAME ACROSS IN MY TEACHING. MY QUESTIONS ARE:
1. ARE BOTH OF THEM ACCEPTABLE? 2. IF YES, IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE?

ALTOGETHER 30 PEOPLE (ALL BEING NATIVE SPEAKERS OF ENGLISH) RESPONDED
TO MY QUERY, AND SOME OF THEM LATER EXCHANGED MORE MAIL WITH ME AND
DEVELOPED OUR DISCUSSION. MY SUMMARY IS BASED MAINLY ON THE FIRST
ROUND OF REPLIES THAT I RECEIVED, BUT FOLLOW-UP RESPONSES ARE ALSO
CONSIDERED.

OF THE 30 RESPONDENTS, 29 SAY THAT BOTH ARE ACCEPTABLE. ONE OF THESE
29 REPLIES ACTUALLY IS A SUMMARY OF RESPONSES TO A SIMILAR QUESTION
POSTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WHICH CONTAINS A RELEVANT PARAGRAPH
IMPLYING THAT BOTH ARE POSSIBLE, BUT WITH DIFFERENCE. JUST ONE
RESPONDENT INDICATES THAT ONLY (B) IS OK.

AMONG THE 29, 10 SEE NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SENTENCES. 3 PREFER (A).
3 PREFER (B).

13 DIFFERENTIATE THE TWO CONSTRUCTIONS FROM VARIOUS PERSPECTIVES. ONE
ANGLE IS STYLE. 4 RESPONDENTS SAY (B) IS MORE COLLOQUIAL,OR LESS
FORMAL, OR MORE USED IN SPEAKING. INTERESTINGLY 1 PERSON HOLDS A
TOTALLY CONTRARY OPINION: (B) IS MORE FORMAL. MORE INTERESTINGLY,
LATER A LINGUIST ARGUED STRONGLY THAT DEFINITELY (B) IS MORE FORMAL
AND THOSE WHO SAY (B) IS MORE COLLOQUIAL ARE UNDOUBTEDLY WRONG.

3 RESPONDENTS DISTINGUISH THE TWO SENTENCES FROM A DIACHRONIC PERSPECTIVE.
THEY THINK THAT (B) IS MORE TRADITIONAL AND IS USED LESS AND LESS.

5 PEOPLE APPROACH THE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF FOCUS. 4 OF THEM BELIEVE
THAT (A) EMPHASIZES

LL Issue: 10.1239
Date Posted: 23-Aug-1999
Original Query: Read original query